configuring broadband/PC power protection/cable-satellite TV in India...

Zoeperman · Mar 6th, 2008, 17:47

As a matter of fact, when you buy a computer with Vista Business or Ultimate, you can legally downgrade it to XP professional with the licence key of Vista.

brishti · Mar 6th, 2008, 17:51

the dell xps has other ideas. the os is locked in or something... thats the 'conversation' nick, bb and i were having all day... and figuring out my quandary.

oh well - i better get used to the devil till i locate bb's double! OR wait for the servicepack2.

:brishti

Zoeperman · Mar 6th, 2008, 17:55

I doubt that we will stop scribbling about Vista that soon.
If you look at how long it took for XP to be fairly accepted, I'm affraid it will take longer for Vista

Quote:

Originally Posted by brishti

nycank: an apple a day? for what it costs in india - the doctor will surely be summoned

Zoeperman: with the servicepack2 will we stop cribbing about vista?

:brishti

Zoeperman · Mar 6th, 2008, 17:59

Even the Dell XPS is perfectly reinstallable.
Just today I installed an XPS M1730 with Sabayon linux and it works like a charm

Nick-H · Mar 6th, 2008, 18:46

If I had that Dell disk to rebuild vista, and a good backup of any data, I'd stick the XP CD in the drive, and run INSTALL from it

...and see what happens.

If I had more sense, I'd check out the link I found above for any drivers, and download them onto a separate CD first. But I probably don't have any

Zoeperman · Mar 6th, 2008, 18:57

Just call Dell support and have them ship one to you.
Othewise you can use any Vista OEM CD and download the drivers from the Dell website.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick-H

If I had that Dell disk to rebuild vista, and a good backup of any data, I'd stick the XP CD in the drive, and run INSTALL from it

...and see what happens.

If I had more sense, I'd check out the link I found above for any drivers, and download them onto a separate CD first. But I probably don't have any

brishti · Mar 6th, 2008, 20:23

thanks zoeperman - will do

:brishti

fine fine fine nick will stop whining/cribbing/thumpingthetabletop... so stop scolding

Nick-H · Mar 6th, 2008, 20:50

Hey, I wasn't scolding... just saying that it is a risk, but I'd probably take it.

There's a cartoon about this: I'll go and look for it.

Nick-H · Mar 6th, 2008, 21:10

Here it is. from www.xkcd.com (no permission needed to reproduce in non-profit-makeing...). It certainly sums up a few of my working hours ...days ...nights ...weekends

Aishah · Mar 6th, 2008, 22:14

LOL, Nick - enjoyed that one!

Nick-H · Mar 6th, 2008, 22:37

I can't say I really enjoyed it. Been there too often!

For those so inclined, I strongly recommend xkcd: "A webcomic of romance,sarcasm, math, and language" I sometimes just don't understand it. but it is at the top of my bookmarks

Dilliwala · Mar 7th, 2008, 02:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aishah

Looks like you've another sparring partner, Dilliwalla!

I hope she thinks of me as a sparing partner instead, i.e. thinks of sparing me the sparring.

Tell u what, she's already overtaken Amyth (disappeared it seems?) as the female wit/wag of IM, and considering she hasn't been around long, will soon overtake Prashant M the male wit of IM, to become reigning wit/wag of IM, what with all that raining wit. <chuckle>

Quote:

Originally Posted by brishti

aisha: what sparring partner - the man only emerges in the cover of darkness

Hey, Nick and I caught u out already, so none of that feigned innocence!

BTW, Vista can be removed from lappys with ease, certainly from HP. But the problem will be drivers for the SATA HDD, which your Dell most likely has. Friend-cum-techie (a real one!) was able to remove Vista (formatting) and load XP, but no SATA driver avbl that worked on XP, tried various stuff but no luck as far as I know. I think he reloaded Vista, but I'll have to ask.
Certainly this is something not to be tried at home, so to speak.

brishti · Mar 7th, 2008, 12:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dilliwala

Tell u what, she's already overtaken Amyth (disappeared it seems?) as the female wit/wag of IM, and considering she hasn't been around long, will soon overtake Prashant M the male wit of IM, to become reigning wit/wag of IM, what with all that raining wit. <chuckle>

Hey, Nick and I caught u out already, so none of that feigned innocence!

you are being now resorting to name-calling dd?
paapam paapam

nick: loved the xkcd site... thank you

[even though most of it i am not for understanding

- but the graphics are great]

:brishti

brishti · Mar 7th, 2008, 12:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoeperman

Just call Dell support and have them ship one to you.

[ i just have to clarify something - this is my last post on dell nick... cross my heart. ]

zoe - this is my experience with dell:

Day 1 - wanna buy a dell? 269 phone calls from them in a day... the what's, when's and how's.
Day 42 - dell is bought.
Day 60 - dell is functioning like no other machine: screen suddenly turns green - matrix appears - you're waiting for keano reeves to do his stuff - instead machine goes to sleep.
Day 61 - dell is behaving.
Day 71 - repeat of day 60.
Day 72 - write letter/customer care/do pooja/rave/rant
Day 73 - repeat of day 61 [its a cycle... now-you-see-green-now-you-dont kinda thing]
Day 74 - + 4 months - write letter/customer care/do pooja/rave/rant/go on a fast/getscoldedinIM

kidding

you see zoe - the tag line of dell customer disservice is - now you got a dell - deal with it.
dell dont have office - its all online, onphone, onvirtual.

i rest my case. as promised nick - Q.E.D.

:brishti

Zoeperman · Mar 7th, 2008, 13:22

I agree that there have been a lot of problems with customer contact / support at Dell, but (atleast here in Holland) things have pickedup a whole lot and customer support seems to be doing it's thing.
It is true that everything is online, but I personally have good experience with the service. My friends notebook also had a dead display, but after I called support, the next day we had an engineer onsite to replace the display (He has a carepack on it)

Just to make sure there won't be people thinking I work for Dell...
I work for one of the other largest computer manufacturers in the world (HP)

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Mar 6th, 2008, 17:47	#421
Zoeperman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Holland Posts: 107	As a matter of fact, when you buy a computer with Vista Business or Ultimate, you can legally downgrade it to XP professional with the licence key of Vista.

Mar 6th, 2008, 17:51	#422
brishti just another member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: india Posts: 1,660	the dell xps has other ideas. the os is locked in or something... thats the 'conversation' nick, bb and i were having all day... and figuring out my quandary. oh well - i better get used to the devil till i locate bb's double! OR wait for the servicepack2. :brishti

Mar 6th, 2008, 17:59	#424
Zoeperman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Holland Posts: 107	Even the Dell XPS is perfectly reinstallable. Just today I installed an XPS M1730 with Sabayon linux and it works like a charm

Mar 6th, 2008, 20:23	#427
brishti just another member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: india Posts: 1,660	thanks zoeperman - will do :brishti fine fine fine nick will stop whining/cribbing/thumpingthetabletop... so stop scolding

Mar 6th, 2008, 20:50	#428
Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 25,881	Hey, I wasn't scolding... just saying that it is a risk, but I'd probably take it. There's a cartoon about this: I'll go and look for it.

Mar 6th, 2008, 21:10	#429
Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 25,881	Here it is. from www.xkcd.com (no permission needed to reproduce in non-profit-makeing...). It certainly sums up a few of my working hours ...days ...nights ...weekends

Mar 6th, 2008, 22:37	#431
Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 25,881	I can't say I really enjoyed it. Been there too often! For those so inclined, I strongly recommend xkcd: "A webcomic of romance,sarcasm, math, and language" I sometimes just don't understand it. but it is at the top of my bookmarks

Mar 7th, 2008, 13:22	#435
Zoeperman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Holland Posts: 107	I agree that there have been a lot of problems with customer contact / support at Dell, but (atleast here in Holland) things have pickedup a whole lot and customer support seems to be doing it's thing. It is true that everything is online, but I personally have good experience with the service. My friends notebook also had a dead display, but after I called support, the next day we had an engineer onsite to replace the display (He has a carepack on it) Just to make sure there won't be people thinking I work for Dell... I work for one of the other largest computer manufacturers in the world (HP)

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