a salute to those on mobile connection...

Aishah · Sep 24th, 2007, 08:09

Because DST (Daylight Saving Time) had been turned to ON - Dilliwalla.It now shows correct IST time after the tips here on this post - I followed Anders and Nick's suggestions and got it right!(Not straight away - 1st I switched to Kabul figuring if my time is so much ahead then this would be about right. WRONG! Way out!) Then I re-read the posts. Then went back and did all the right stuff...
Nick H - Phew! Glad it's for Programmers... I don't think I could do anything like this! Thanks for help. And yes, it's only on IM. Still there this morning but Nadreg is probably still asleep..I just click CANCEL and then all running O.K.
Congrats bb for your connection back.. India very frustrating. yesterday, usual power cuts then power back with much higher voltage, my a/c box not working - I think switch burned out - tried later, it's back to normal.. Back to MTNL Fraudband - another friend I have in Delhi also has hers going out from time to time.. It's to be expected apparently. Make a dial-up on your telephone line, it's better than mobile, better than nothing!

Nick-H · Sep 24th, 2007, 11:14

I'd be surprised if Windows can work out if a country has DST or not, or what dates are applicable --- but I don't know if this info is available from time servers.

brownboy66 · Sep 24th, 2007, 11:29

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Originally Posted by Nick-H

256 is fine for most browsing.

Just not much good for anything else!

ahhhh....agreed, we live in hope....

brownboy66 · Sep 24th, 2007, 11:40

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Originally Posted by Dilliwala

Maybe this is related, maybe not - when I'm signed in to IM my time-zone displays correctly (IST). When I'm signed out, it shows IST + 1. Post #44, was at 1.49 am today, when signed out of IM it shows as 2.49 am. This was the case with my previous DST setting (Automatically detect); it's the case with my present DST setting (Off). What gives?

oooo....that's weird. So IM is set to IST, so when you're logged on - it gives you the correct time. When you log out - its as if some other time reference takes over (your PCs clock)and shows that time on the browser - or at least that's what it sounds like???

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And even if Aishah's DST setting was 'On' why the hell wud it change her clock if she had IST selected? Unless the software isn't smart enuff to realise India has no DST.

As nick said - windows should be able to handle that no problem. Even before the advent of time servers - windows would automatically adjust for daylight saving, but only in those countries that had it. For non-DST countries, no changes should have occurred. This was the case going right back to windows 3.1 if I remember correctly.

Anders · Sep 24th, 2007, 13:33

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Originally Posted by Dilliwala

when I'm signed in to IM my time-zone displays correctly (IST). When I'm signed out, it shows IST + 1.

Your right, the server is off by 1h when you are logged off.
Don't log off

Nick-H · Sep 24th, 2007, 14:34

I just noticed my Windows doesn't seem to have a DST option!

brownboy66 · Sep 24th, 2007, 15:16

if you go into time settings and change it to a region that has DST (like NZ) - the DST option should pop up....

Nick-H · Sep 24th, 2007, 15:18

Ahhh... So for IST it should not be there.

Cleverer than I expect, from MS!

But why, I wonder, does my internet time check always fail? It used to work.

brownboy66 · Sep 24th, 2007, 15:22

yeah....a useful MS feature that works

hmmm....my internet time sync isn't working at the moment either....

curiouser and curiouser....

Nick-H · Sep 24th, 2007, 16:15

More security hints for public machines...

as well as clearing the coockies...

Clear the Internet Temporary files.

Clear the browser history.

Empty the recycle bin (especially if you have composed and printed out a letter or something).

Reboot the machine.

Many of the better places will severely restrict what customers can do, so you may be denied access to some functions.

Some might not even allow you to shutdown or reboot --- but there is no way they can stop you hitting the off button! Hint... if it appears to do nothing, hold it down for five seconds... that, instead of doing a software shutdown does a straight power off.

brownboy66 · Sep 24th, 2007, 16:37

good advice for the "internet banking" thread?

nadreg · Sep 24th, 2007, 20:31

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Originally Posted by Aishah

It is MS Internet Explorer - I have just recently done an update when I put on mobile stuff and MSN Messenger - don't know if this would have the effect.. It is only when I open IM - and if I click Cancel, everything goes as normal. Should I do the Debug? Or will it make matters worse? What happened when I clicked Debug is that a whole lot of IM script like you write for computers came onto my page and no sort of sign of 'You are debugging now" - I got fed up waiting for whatever was going to happen and clicked cancel. Everything went back to normal.

It may be happening because you have Javascript debugging enabled. Do you know how to check this on your browser?

Dilliwala · Sep 24th, 2007, 21:05

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As nick said - windows should be able to handle that no problem.

He was actually saying the opposite, but u know that by now.

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Ahhh... So for IST it should not be there.

Cleverer than I expect, from MS!

But why, I wonder, does my internet time check always fail? It used to work.

Live and learn, eh? U need to spend more time away from this website and playing with your PC settings a bit. This feature has been avbl since Win98, maybe even Win95.
Yeah, the time sync doesn't work, might be an XP-related thing. U know MS, give something new with one hand, take away something old with the other.

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oooo....that's weird. So IM is set to IST, so when you're logged on - it gives you the correct time. When you log out - its as if some other time reference takes over (your PCs clock)and shows that time on the browser - or at least that's what it sounds like???

Yes, IM is set to IST, for ME (when I'm signed in of course!) - becos that's what I chose in IM's User control panel ->Options. This is not IM's default time, u can choose NZ time in yours and that's what it will show u - when u're LOGGED IN! Yes, another time reference takes over when I log out, but it's not from my PC clock, which is set correctly, plus/minus a minute or 2.

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Your right, the server is off by 1h when you are logged off.
Don't log off

That's a work-around, not the answer to why it shud be happening at all.

Folks, in case no one's noticed, it's Myanmar Std. Time that takes over at log-out! Not IST as claimed. I wudn't be surprised if nadreg drops by saying I've uncovered another bug. Fat lot of good that will do me, I'm STILL waiting for a t-shirt from the last time around!

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Hint... if it appears to do nothing, hold it down for five seconds... that, instead of doing a software shutdown does a straight power off.

......, if that's the setting chosen in Windows-->Power Options. Set it to "Do nothing" and that's exactly what it will do - nothing.

Dilliwala · Sep 24th, 2007, 21:19

Ahem, brownboy
a salute to those on mobile connection...
Cough, cough, nudge, nudge?

Aishah · Sep 24th, 2007, 21:25

Where do i go to close off java script debugging - do I need it? this is the 1st time it has come up since i bought laptop last year in november... Would appreciate help with what I do!! Thanks Nadreg.

Sep 24th, 2007, 08:09	#46
Aishah She-who-must-be-obeyed! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jaisalmer Posts: 4,459	Because DST (Daylight Saving Time) had been turned to ON - Dilliwalla.It now shows correct IST time after the tips here on this post - I followed Anders and Nick's suggestions and got it right!(Not straight away - 1st I switched to Kabul figuring if my time is so much ahead then this would be about right. WRONG! Way out!) Then I re-read the posts. Then went back and did all the right stuff... Nick H - Phew! Glad it's for Programmers... I don't think I could do anything like this! Thanks for help. And yes, it's only on IM. Still there this morning but Nadreg is probably still asleep..I just click CANCEL and then all running O.K. Congrats bb for your connection back.. India very frustrating. yesterday, usual power cuts then power back with much higher voltage, my a/c box not working - I think switch burned out - tried later, it's back to normal.. Back to MTNL Fraudband - another friend I have in Delhi also has hers going out from time to time.. It's to be expected apparently. Make a dial-up on your telephone line, it's better than mobile, better than nothing! __________________ "Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards." Last edited by Aishah : Sep 24th, 2007 at 08:13. Reason: Forgot to add something..

Sep 24th, 2007, 11:14	#47
Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 25,853	I'd be surprised if Windows can work out if a country has DST or not, or what dates are applicable --- but I don't know if this info is available from time servers. __________________ . Just one member of the IndiaMike Mod Team

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brownboy66 Chicken 65 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,148	if you go into time settings and change it to a region that has DST (like NZ) - the DST option should pop up....

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Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 25,853	Ahhh... So for IST it should not be there. Cleverer than I expect, from MS! But why, I wonder, does my internet time check always fail? It used to work.

Sep 24th, 2007, 15:22	#54
brownboy66 Chicken 65 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,148	yeah....a useful MS feature that works hmmm....my internet time sync isn't working at the moment either.... curiouser and curiouser....

Sep 24th, 2007, 16:15	#55
Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 25,853	More security hints for public machines... as well as clearing the coockies... Clear the Internet Temporary files. Clear the browser history. Empty the recycle bin (especially if you have composed and printed out a letter or something). Reboot the machine. Many of the better places will severely restrict what customers can do, so you may be denied access to some functions. Some might not even allow you to shutdown or reboot --- but there is no way they can stop you hitting the off button! Hint... if it appears to do nothing, hold it down for five seconds... that, instead of doing a software shutdown does a straight power off.

Sep 24th, 2007, 16:37	#56
brownboy66 Chicken 65 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,148	good advice for the "internet banking" thread?

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Dilliwala Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dilli Posts: 3,246	Ahem, brownboy a salute to those on mobile connection... Cough, cough, nudge, nudge?

Sep 24th, 2007, 21:25	#60
Aishah She-who-must-be-obeyed! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jaisalmer Posts: 4,459	Where do i go to close off java script debugging - do I need it? this is the 1st time it has come up since i bought laptop last year in november... Would appreciate help with what I do!! Thanks Nadreg.

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