Jet Airways strike

Nick-H

This is all getting too pontius for me

WayFarer

And this is the same organization that a few weeks back was threatening a nationwide strike with other airlines on the ATF price and other issues - talk about double standards...

capt_mahajan

As costaguana implies, all airlines are bleeding. Many were, until a year or two ago, in a situation similar to that of the IT industry before the dotcom bubble burst many years ago- fighting for marketshare (or eyeballs in IT)and hoping to be bought over at a good price.

In the changed economic scenario, many are hurting badly. This may be just an excuse for Jet to declare a lock out - or push for government bailouts as many airlines tried a few weeks ago- or somesuch.

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flibber

i don't think there is any double standard. the airlines were trying to draw attention to the high cost of airline operations which was making the whole business unsustainable. the result of high input cost was a high output cost thus making air travel unaffordable for the masses. It was in the public interest that the airlines wanted to draw attention of the government. In this case also it is in the interest of the travelling public that the airline is not encouraging formation of a union. everyone knows what unionism has done to the companies and those who are the end-users of the company's services. It affects both.

Groovemeister

I just hope it's sorted by the 25th when I'm supposed to fly to Udaipur with Jet.

Nick-H

Oh, I cannot stop laughing at how very wonderfully public-spirited these corporations are!





Oh! the anti-union every-body-knows slur service now! Oh well, played, sir! Hilarious. Please, no more! It tickles! I can't stand it!



(We are not all stupid enough to believe that stuff, you know)

costaguana

A couple good points from the morning news analysis (as we enter day three):

1) Whatever your stance on unionization, it is unrealistic for Jet to expect that it can operate as a large, diverse airline and NOT have unions (when almost every other large airline in the world has multiple unions). A pilots union (along with others) is inevitable if Jet wants to grow.

2) The pilots continued action is helping nobody (including themselves) and will set back any talks that would have happened otherwise. The unionization process is lengthy, and the pilots have not given the management a reasonable plan of action for negotiations.

So, with two unreasonable positions on the table, when this is going to end is anyone's guess.

shashank.aggarwal

well Nick is at his Anti-power best. This time Corporates. Huh !!

He forgets that its humans like us that constitute the management and run them.

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sarkar

400 employees are suffering from Loose Motion.

Its actually a mass Sick Leave... not a regular strike !!!

Nick-H

I don't forget any such thing, Shashank. I worked for thirty years --- for companies varying in size from a handful of people right up to a giant Japanese MNC! I have experienced more than my share of bad management, and, almost certainly, committed some too.

Whatever the rights or wrongs here, I think we should follow the daily happenings for the sake of prospective travellers, and today's news doesn't look good, with only a tiny a handful of the usual thirty-plus Jet flights out of Chennai getting off the ground.

Groovemeister

I have no objection to unions - but this isn't official union action is it? As far as I can make out, a strike was rejected and these guys have taken matters into their own hands? Or is that because no formal union organisation exists and that's part of the problem?

Nick-H

I think it may be, yes. Lack of parity between conditions for local and ex-pat staff is also a big groan, and one that I'm sure I'd sympathise with.

Not entirely sure, though, despite it having been in the newspapers for a couple of weeks.

LilBoy BigTown

Did someone notice Naresh Goyal's bluff about closing down the airline? It was all over in the press yesterday.

This guy holds more than 80% shares in Jet and the threat sounds very hollow.

On the other hand, running an airline in India is akin to being on the road to bankruptcy. History is littered with stories of failed airlines. For starters, the fuel costs are among the highest in the world due to each state levying taxes as they please. Further, the favouritism to state carrier like AI makes it an uneven field.

So whilst AI continues to bleed heavily, the Govt is happy to bail it out every time. But when Private carriers demand a similar bail out package, the Govt rejects (and rightly so). But how is doling out a 5,000 crore bail out package to AI any fair?

Tax payers hard earned money is squandered without a thought. No preconditions were laid, AI wasn't asked to lift its game. Money dished out on a platter. I would much rather see AI shut down, it is a disgrace at best of times. Despite all of it, the Jet's and the Kingfisher's don't have my sympathy.

capt_mahajan

News also reported Jet hiring more expats to fill in for 'sick' pilots.

That will be wonderful for Jet's bottomline.

emmyisyummy

So, maybe I missed the answer in the previous posts, but does this just involve domestic flights, or is it all Jet Airways flights. Also, if it is just domestic flights could it spill over to international flights, or is that segment of Jet Airways owned / operated by someone else? I am more than a little stressed by reading this as the Brussles to Delhi segment of my flight leaving in 16 days is operated by Jet Airways. Any reassurance would be apprciated