bird flu vaccination

marzoryy

hi,
im going to mumbai in december via moscow,so im woried cause of problem that I might at the airport.Do I need certificat of vaccination of bird flue?
Can anyoneone give me info?

Nick-H

You don't need a certificate of vaccination for anything (unless, perhaps you have come from a yellow fever area?). So don't worry.

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marzoryy

thanx Nick...
cause here,in Serbia,dont even have bird flue vaccine...
free to fly now

Jempoloni

Just heard from my doctor the other day that there actually is no vaccine available against the bird flue. Apparently, it is not possible to develop a vaccine until the virus is transferring from human to human. Does anyone know if this is true? Sometimes they say in the newspapers that there is medicine for "important people" only in most countries... Comments?

Since I will be working with birds in India next year I would feel much more safe if I could get a vaccination before I go...

sailor

There is DEFINITELY no vaccine against bird flu. There is a vaccine against "regular" flu and it is developed each year as a "best guess" for the type of flu expected. So, it is not 100%, just a best guess but very useful.

There is an antiviral drug called "tamiflu' that is effective AFTER you get flu as long as it is taken within 2 days of getting the flu. However, it is not known if it is effective against avian (bird) flu as there have been so few cases of this. By the time it is diagnosed people are very sick and past the 2 days. This is the drug "important" people are reputed to have.

Wash your hands many times a day. Very effective.

shanthi

Apparantly, in Ireland today, it's reported that they are offering everyone here a vaccination against the "normal" flu - so that IF bird flu ever reaches here (it's in Europe now) that it doesn't get the chance to mutate and therefore produce yet another strain - IF you were unfortunate enough to get normal flu and bird flu at the same time! Hmmm....glad I'm on my way.....wouldn't have the flu vac anyway

shanthi

MY GOD! you mean we're not ALL important!!!

Seriously, I personally WOULD believe that what you say is true! That there IS some kids of vac for "important" people - or those that believe they are....Hmmm don't start me on THAT one!

Nick-H

If you don't get close to birds there is really nothing to worry about Bird Flu (unless you own a poultry farm, in which case check your insurance and Be Very Afraid ). Apparently there is only one known case of it being transmitted human to human.

ordinary flu virus has been available free to 'high risk' people in UK for some years. I used to get it on the basis of a history of bad chest infections.

For those into homeopathy* when the vaccine is made each year the homeopaths will have a homeopathic version of it.

* that's all nonsense. No it is'nt; it works. No it doesn't. Yes it does.

...OK folks, no need to go there now

wizemen2

There is no such thing as a preventative vaccination for bird flu at the moment, only a shot that makes it easier after you contract it [tammyflu]

mira4bai4

The bird flu vaccine has a small window within it can work and seems to be a once only med so to early or to late then what?

Best precaution is hygiene, washing of hands, where a face mask like many Asian do for flu's and gloves, mind only the gloves and mask only when it is on the wing so to speak. But hygiene is ones first line of defence and if your immune system is really tweaked to optimum then things will look much brighter.

Look after yourselves there's a war going on, it's hell out there, buckle up, keep your powder and your feet dry and always say thank you for the days.

Jempoloni

ok shanthi: sorry to upset you - I'm sure u are as important as I am

BTW everyone - Tamiflu is now apparently worthless because of a new mutation of the virus...

shanthi

Uh......that was a joke.....note the afterwards........silly billy

john.sw

I am not afraid

I was in China when bird flu broke out there. They murdered civet cats to prevent it from spreading.

Then I was in Thailand where bird flu was the biggest story on the news. They murdered millions of chickens because one person died of suspected bird flu.

Now it is moving towards Europe and we are supposed to be afraid.

It is now nearly 2 years since this dreadful disease came to the attention of the authorities, and the EU (whatever that is) is now considering the forced imprisonment or murder of all free-range domestic fowls to prevent them from catching it from migrating birds.

Remember SARS?

SARS was the flavour of the month not long before avian flu got to #1 in the pandemic charts. SARS was also going to take the lives of tens of millions of people around the world, but the death toll was a little ove 8000.

It is alleged that 60 people around the world have died as a result of avian flu.

Each one of these deaths is a personal tragedy for the people involved, but compare the death toll with the Tsunami, Katrina, Guatamala, Pakistan and Kashmir... or the war in Iraq.

Obviously, many politicians have nothing better to do than choking the chicken.

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edwardseco

For years a major epidemic has been expected along previous historical cycles. The 1919-20 was similar to the present bird flu, keep up with the research. Read a little about that one. The worst part about it was youthful people were the most affected not the geezers, but people in the prime of their lives. A wild estimate of the potential deaths this time could be 150 million. The use of the word "murder" in regard to raising fowl for eating is a little twisted. Do you eat them alive, just curious.?

jens

There's currently a strain of H5N1 resistant to Tamiflu:
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/as...lu.drugs.reut/

There is talk about developing a vaccine (though this may be a ways off)
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news...gfo&refer=home

Here's a short article on the research done reconstucting the 1918 bird flu strain that relates to the current flu strain...here's the first paragraph:

From: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n..._bird_flu.html

For more detailed explanations Science and Nature both have archived articles and research updates.