Aug 10 Flights Disruption; Terrorists thwarted

Nick-H · Aug 11th, 2006, 00:33

Have you been affected? Are you do to fly within the next few days?

Any updates on the situation?

Any reactions?

Brigit · Aug 11th, 2006, 00:56

Seems to be okish, I'm flying out tonight from heathrow, they are only saying an hour and a half delay. we will see, aparently can't take any hand luggage thought, just a wallet and travel docs, in a clear bag. I might die without a book.

mercedes10 · Aug 11th, 2006, 01:18

Short-haul & domestic flights in and out of Heathrow have been cancelled. Most other airports are still functioning albeit with delays. Hand-baggage isn't allowed - just essential items in a clear bag. liquids aren't allowed.

Conspiracists are suggesting this is all a smoke-screen to distract from the middle east crisis. I don't know. The world is such a mess!

kidsan · Aug 11th, 2006, 01:44

will we ever be able to take handluggage on a plane again? i can see things changing in a big way after this for plane travel

Nick-H · Aug 11th, 2006, 02:15

I might die without a book. That was my first thought.

I just hope that they are allwoing the same total hold plus carry-on allowance. Let's face: most of that carry-on stuff we don't need in the flight, it is just there because we're up to the limit on what's booked in (at least for non-light travellers like me).

An air security "correspondent" on TV was saying this restriction is over the top. He also said that the "liquid explosives" that are causing the worry this time have been around for quite a while and nothing has been done to implement detecting them.

What worries me above all is that the "UK Police are confident" that they have foiled a massive terrorist attack. They were confident that they were raiding a bomb factory when they shot an innocent man in his London home just a few weeks ago...

I'm sure that the conspiracy theorists will have a hayday; and I do wonder, even if the threat is deadly real, how much of the action is neccessary or effective and how much is publicity.

Of course, I wish we lived in a world where none of this happened and we never had to ask these questions.

Brigit: have a good flight

. I'm sure the worst thing on board will be the food!

aadil · Aug 11th, 2006, 02:24

Doesn't make sense to me at all. Why should you not be allowed hand baggage if you can take checked in baggage? Both can be xrayed the same way to check for any illegal items or explosive materials that affect the safety of those travelling on board the aircraft.

Aadil.

Nick-H · Aug 11th, 2006, 02:27

And a bomb in the hold is surely just as dangerous...

aadil · Aug 11th, 2006, 02:45

Brings to mind my favourite song IMAGINE by John Lennon. Now if only it could come true someday soon!!!

Cheers,
Aadil.

Sama · Aug 11th, 2006, 02:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by aadil

Doesn't make sense to me at all. Why should you not be allowed hand baggage if you can take checked in baggage? Both can be xrayed the same way to check for any illegal items or explosive materials that affect the safety of those travelling on board the aircraft.

those were my exact thoughts this morning!

so what if you don't allow someone to bring shampoo or whatever in their carryon bag -- my toiletries are in my checked luggage! so someone can't sneak something onboard THAT way?!?

Merchant · Aug 11th, 2006, 03:22

If the rich world is now paralyzed by a tube of toothpaste, we are all really screwed (first it was tweezers). People in Mumbai can board commuter trains without passing through a gauntlet of magnetic, optical, and psychological screeners, personal patdowns, and the removal of footware. They can still carry packs and briefcases. Life moves on. It's just too bad that the US and the UK have thrown in the towel. The terrorists have won.

If air travel represents an unacceptable risk to the free world, ban air travel.

lotus blossom · Aug 11th, 2006, 03:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by mercedes10

Conspiracists are suggesting this is all a smoke-screen to distract from the middle east crisis.

happens all the time...the media is bought and controlled and it spoon feeds the masses to keep us in fear mode. there's a great film i saw a few months ago on this subect. think it was called "hijacked by fear". um, yeah...

Sama · Aug 11th, 2006, 03:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by lotus blossom

happens all the time...the media is bought and controlled and it spoon feeds the masses to keep us in fear mode. there's a great film i saw a few months ago on this subect. think it was called "hijacked by fear". um, yeah...

as my root guru said when someone asked him "what are we afraid of?". His answer: "EVERYTHING!"

Sama · Aug 11th, 2006, 03:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merchant

If the rich world is now paralyzed by a tube of toothpaste, we are all really screwed (first it was tweezers)

my husband is out of town on business and when he heard the news early this morning he called me to tell me I'm screwed: he said they were banning CHAPSTICK and any other type of lip moisturizer! I carry about 10 of those around with me on a daily basis!

Merchant · Aug 11th, 2006, 03:52

It's just ridiculous. At some point we will elect a government of people who have not lost their minds. I should not have to cross a pseudo-military checkpoint just to get on an airplane, and items I can purchase at RiteAid should be perfectly legal at 35,000 feet. Collectively, why are we such ninnies?

lotus blossom · Aug 11th, 2006, 04:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merchant

Collectively, why are we such ninnies?

using fear keeps people passive and ignorant. just where they want us. after 9.11, they've been able to use the fear factor to allow all sort of injustices to be carried out, in our name. for a sense of security, people will do almost anything.

collectively, when are we gonna wake up!

Aug 11th, 2006, 00:33	#1
Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 28,373	Aug 10 Flights Disruption; Terrorists thwarted Have you been affected? Are you do to fly within the next few days? Any updates on the situation? Any reactions? __________________ . Just one member of the IndiaMike Mod Team

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aadil Aircraft Service Engineer, Astronomer & Traveller Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Mumbai, India. (Lat 18.967 N, Long 72.833 E, Alt 11 m) Posts: 1,904	Doesn't make sense to me at all. Why should you not be allowed hand baggage if you can take checked in baggage? Both can be xrayed the same way to check for any illegal items or explosive materials that affect the safety of those travelling on board the aircraft. Aadil. __________________ Climb high; climb far; Your goal, the sky, Your aim, the stars!!!

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Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 28,373	I might die without a book. That was my first thought. I just hope that they are allwoing the same total hold plus carry-on allowance. Let's face: most of that carry-on stuff we don't need in the flight, it is just there because we're up to the limit on what's booked in (at least for non-light travellers like me). An air security "correspondent" on TV was saying this restriction is over the top. He also said that the "liquid explosives" that are causing the worry this time have been around for quite a while and nothing has been done to implement detecting them. What worries me above all is that the "UK Police are confident" that they have foiled a massive terrorist attack. They were confident that they were raiding a bomb factory when they shot an innocent man in his London home just a few weeks ago... I'm sure that the conspiracy theorists will have a hayday; and I do wonder, even if the threat is deadly real, how much of the action is neccessary or effective and how much is publicity. Of course, I wish we lived in a world where none of this happened and we never had to ask these questions. Brigit: have a good flight . I'm sure the worst thing on board will be the food!

Aug 11th, 2006, 02:27	#7
Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 28,373	And a bomb in the hold is surely just as dangerous...

Aug 11th, 2006, 02:45	#8
aadil Aircraft Service Engineer, Astronomer & Traveller Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Mumbai, India. (Lat 18.967 N, Long 72.833 E, Alt 11 m) Posts: 1,904	Brings to mind my favourite song IMAGINE by John Lennon. Now if only it could come true someday soon!!! Cheers, Aadil.

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Merchant Maha Guru Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New York Posts: 2,101	If the rich world is now paralyzed by a tube of toothpaste, we are all really screwed (first it was tweezers). People in Mumbai can board commuter trains without passing through a gauntlet of magnetic, optical, and psychological screeners, personal patdowns, and the removal of footware. They can still carry packs and briefcases. Life moves on. It's just too bad that the US and the UK have thrown in the towel. The terrorists have won. If air travel represents an unacceptable risk to the free world, ban air travel.

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Merchant Maha Guru Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New York Posts: 2,101	It's just ridiculous. At some point we will elect a government of people who have not lost their minds. I should not have to cross a pseudo-military checkpoint just to get on an airplane, and items I can purchase at RiteAid should be perfectly legal at 35,000 feet. Collectively, why are we such ninnies?

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