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Old Jul 25th, 2008, 17:56   #1
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Performing monkeys suffer! Visitors to India please do not encourage!

Nilesh Bhanage from PAWS (www.pawsasia.org) informed us about training methods are used to teach monkeys to entertain.

While to many tourists dancing monkeys seem amusing, if they would know what the animal has to go through they may not find it so entertaining.

A slum in Mumbai called Kalwa (West) in Thane is a major centre for monkey training. Here the animals are kept leashed and trained, are brutally beaten,starved them, and giving electric shocks as punishment.

Most of these animals were trapped as baby monkeys from the wild. Once the monkeys grow old and are unable to perform, they become a burden for the owner and are left on the roads to die.

To avoid such suffering please do not encourage the monkey owners by giving money, food or in any other way.
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http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1178992
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Old Jul 25th, 2008, 18:10   #2
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Old Jul 25th, 2008, 20:54   #3
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That is great! Thanks.

Can I add three more to the list of beggars not to give to:

- Beggars disguised as fortune tellers with birds
- Beggars disguised as holy men with elephants (those I perhaps dislike most! )
- So called snake charmers (but the snakes ain't charmed at all)
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And the cruellest of all....child beggars.

But like myself, I bet most tourists have given money before.
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Old Jul 25th, 2008, 21:42   #5
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Agreed! And arguably the most difficult to solve.

Those who harm animals are likely to harm humans and vice versa. That is why the fight for each is aiming at the same goal but via a different route.
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Those who harm animals are likely to harm humans and vice versa. That is why the fight for each is aiming at the same goal but via a different route.
Well done & well said Birds!

I'll just add to your post two links of some major animal welfare organizations that will provide more info on that subject and others connected:

http://www.petaindia.com/


http://www.idaindia.org/
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Thanks for your support Larkilli .

I also found some more helpfull information, see attached.

The suffering is so obvious, it needs to be stopped!
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Not only monkeys, I avoid all shows where animals are made to perform acts which are alien to them in nature.
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These threads on animals make my blood boil and also run cold. I just wish there was some way we could put a stop to all this untold suffering.

What a happier and more peaceful place this would be for us all.
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I just wish there was some way we could put a stop to all this untold suffering.

What a happier and more peaceful place this would be for us all.
dear Priya, few inspiring words for you and whoever feels to read them... they always give me goose bump and some extra 'batteries-charge'...

“Let no one be discouraged by the belief there is nothing one person can do against the enormous array of the world's ills, misery, ignorance, and violence. Few will have the greatness to bend history, but each of us can work to change a small portion of events. And in the total of all those acts will be written the history of a generation.”
Robert F. Kennedy

“Never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way.”
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“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

Edmund Burke


... which is more or less the same as in the story of the kid who used to pick up star fishes on the beach, and threw them back in the sea – one by one...

and once we're here, i hope Birds will forgive me for this little 'off topic' (but not much.. really..) and i'll end this post with “A Message of Hope”
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i hope Birds will forgive me for this little 'off topic' (but not much.. really..)
This is not 'off topic' at all! In fact it is exactly hitting the nail on the head. Every little helps to reduce misery. Even if you improve one life, even just temporary, it is a gain.

I don't know who said it, but I strongly believe that the world does not get worse because bad people do bad but because good people choose to look the other way and do nothing.

This is also the reason why I try to take every opportunity to show and inform about the mistreatment of animals and I have found that it often helps.

Just asking somebody to neuter their pet is sometimes the only thing needed to get it done. Telling tourists about the misery monkeys, elephants, etc. go through tends to make them think twice before they give money.
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“Never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way.”
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This is a wonderful quote Larkilli - thank you.

I know that everything helps, no matter how small, but I wish all this suffering would STOP, NOW, which is an impossible dream.
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