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Old Oct 21st, 2009, 21:18   #1
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Angry Question about marriage

Hello Every one,

I am from Gurgaon and need some help about my marriage.

Here is my short story:-

I got married to foreign girl, in other words I got nikkah which {muslim marriage} and now I am here in India, met lawyer and he said in order for us to get marriage certificate we will have to spend around Rs 18,000 and I do not know why. Another thing is in order to get married we have to have our parents preset, we are adult enough to take our own decision but I don't no why they want our parents. Please help your input would really appreciated.


Note: My wife T visa is expiring soon in Dec 15 and I need marriage certificate URGENT


Thanks in advance
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Old Oct 21st, 2009, 23:46   #2
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No help people???
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Old Oct 22nd, 2009, 00:03   #3
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I'll take a stab at it...

Ok, so let's get the full story here:

You are an Indian? You reside in Delhi? Do you belong to anywhere else?

She is foreign? Is she muslim too or did you have a mixed marriage?

My extraordinarily limited knowledge when a nikkah is involved - unless you are both residents of J&K, you need to file for a registered marriage. J&K has some weird/only-their-state rules. Additionally, I'm thinking that it would be for a nikkah that actually takes place in J&K too. So, if married in Delhi/NCR those rules wouldn't hold.

If you're a mixed couple, you fall under the Special Marriage Act. [Actually, thinking it thru even 2 muslims fall under it too if memory serves]. In order for that religously official marriage to be registered as a legal marriage, you need to register at least 30 days in advance. Your wife will need to provide id info as well as proof she is/was able to legally marry [a cert of no-objection from her embassy or a divorce cert [if she's divorced] or a death certificate [if she's a widow]].

Then, you can "officially" marry even though you've already done the nikkah.

There is a 30 day wait where supposedly the impending marriage details are on public display or some such quirkiness.

At the end of the 30 days, you go in and register the marriage.

As for this guys fees - seems crazy high to me. I haven't looked into agents fees for this process but from other stories here on IM, it seems high.

Look at the bottom of the page and you'll see similar questions. This comes up pretty frequently it seems.
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Old Oct 22nd, 2009, 01:17   #4
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Sam...

Do you know anyone else that paid Rs.18,000 to get married? No, I thought not!

Just because you married a non-Indian really doesn't change the basic procedures. Don't let any money-grabbing lawyer persuade you that it does!

Come to think of it... how many people do you know who needed a lawyer to get married? Well, Exactly!

I do not know about the Muslim Mariage Act. If you are not aware of it already, then google it, and read it: it should tell you most of what you need to know. The rest you can find out by asking your registrar about registering your marriage.

The cost of this foreigner's mixed marriage (Special Marriage Act) was less than Rs.300 --- and that included two Rs100 tips to a clerk!

Don't get lawyers involved, and don't let the registrar string you along either. Your state probably has a website giving the register-office charges; that is what you should pay. If anyone wants more... a tip here and there may be fine, but let it come to a few hundreds. If people start asking for thousands, there is something called the Vigilance Department!

One more don't, which has a bearing on how much you may be seen to be worth: don't go in there with "it's desperately urgent" written all over you, because that easily translates into either "sucker" or "victim", if your officer is either into hard cash or hard ego.

After all the don'ts: do have a wonderful life together

This brush with bureaucracy won't last for ever.

She will need to convert her tourist visa to an "Entry" ("X") visa. Whilst that can be done in India, it is still easier back in her home country.
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Old Oct 26th, 2009, 15:51   #5
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thanks for your input....
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Old Oct 31st, 2009, 02:39   #6
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http://newdelhi.usembassy.gov/acsmarr.html

The Nikah Nama is the marriage certificate and is issued by authorised Qazi. I mean the person who performed your marriage ritual.
He can issue it hand to hand or next day.

The translation is done by any Notary Public.. any civil court.

Hope the information will suffice..
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18000 is a wierd sum to pay IMO !

I remember when I got married I got the certificate in a week's time paying only a few hundred rupees ( including tips ). All they wanted was the Marriage Card, Wedding Photo, A Witness Signature and ID's of both ( Passport / Pan Card )
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18,000 is a ridiculous amount to pay. Millions of Indians get married without paying such silly sums.

One can always find corruption and greed, but it is a bit silly to go looking for it! Lawyers not needed.
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Guys I have a quick question:-

To make a true copy of 1 original document, is it suppose to be notarized or attestation ? which one is true ?
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To make a true copy of 1 original document, is it suppose to be notarized or attestation ? which one is true ?
In the US, to notarize a document you have to be sworn in by the State and take an oath to be a Notary Public, and I believe India is basically the same. An attestation may be done by anyone that is a witness. Not sure about the India definition, but suspect that they may be used interchangeably.

When we were doing all the marriage docs there we had everything notarized, a service that's readily and cheaply available around Delhi.
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