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Partridge fighting

Is partridge fighting still popular in delhi and does anyone know where it can be seen?
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Try Old Delhi Sunday nights for cockfights ..... & most mornings for partridge fights.
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Thanks for that info.

I presume elephant fighting no longer occurs in India? I imagine it was quite a sight back in the day!
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Er, JohnBlack, do you really want to support this? There was cockfighting where I grew up, illegal, but it still happened.

It's a gruesome and unpleasant business, and of course usually leaving at least one of the parties dead, and entirely torn up before finally they do die. I mean the match normally ends when the other is dead. Then the onlookers, predominantly of the male variety of course, and with their frantic betting going all berserk on adrenaline and all the bloodspill and throwing away their month's wages that their families might have had some use for... ugh

I have seen it, and whilst perhaps another of those quirky exotic little cultural phenomena, it is really no fun.
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Dalrymple discusses it in 'City of Djinns' and there is also a video segment dedicated to it his documentary of the same name. Like it or not - it's a a remnant of Mughal tradition and a glimpse into Delhi's not so distant past.
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Partridge fighting is an old diversion of which Delhi is still a famous center. Nowadays these "bird challenges" are held in a Muslim graveyard, where Mr. Dalrymple observed one.

He describes the proceedings with sharp details of the betting, the jostling, and the birds' shrieks and leaps and spur-slashings. The contest was exciting, until it was interrupted by the unforeseen arrival of a funeral. The defeated cock, kissed and cuddled by its owner, was expected to survive. There is, perhaps, a faint parallel between that partridge and Delhi.



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Well, it's a new take on the usual wonderful, spiritual, holy India tourist fantasy, at least.

We can do you bullfighting, down here in the South. Decried by almost everyone except those that do it, but licensed by the word that covers everything from killing little girls to making animals suffer: tradition.
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Goa too Nick.
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post ....but licensed by the word that covers everything from killing little girls to making animals suffer: tradition.
oh yeah...."tradition" and "cultural differences." those two excuses that make dispicable acts OK.....
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Well, it's a new take on the usual wonderful, spiritual, holy India tourist fantasy, at least.
But that is part of the whole too nick.

And let's not disregard evolution, many of these depravities exist because people want them and/or except them. It's pointless to believe the mindsets and beliefs of India are concurrent with our perceived realities in the west...
I think that is something the west should wake up to in Afghanistan etc..

I was struck by a thought in India on this last trip, maybe India is further evolved than the west. Maybe I was looking at the truth, no lip service paid to equality, livelihoods and health, simply the survival of the fittest.
The stark realities of poverty may be the west's in 20 years time. Wealth makes moral stand points & liberalism a lot easier. A fact we will be waking up to in the not too distant future.
A passing thought which I've not fully digested yet but it will be interesting to see how western countries fare when the financial rug is pulled from under them...Our history and the behaviour of the "establishement in the last 15 years doesn't fill me with hope..

But I digress again............
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Originally Posted by Sama View Post oh yeah...."tradition" and "cultural differences." those two excuses that make dispicable acts OK.....
Tradition/culture is also allowing cows to graze & ultimately suffocate/starve in those urban 'plastic' pastures. Not much difference between the two.
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Lots of cows are looked after too Peak so that is also "tradition"
They turn up at different shops same time every day, it's quite comical to watch as they stand waiting for their dinner.
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One would think the overall toll taken on cows due to repercussions of their urban wanderings is far greater than the that of the few remaining partridge scraps happening. I'm not condoning either - just putting the suffering into perspective.
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But the suffering of cows is the result of modern life not of the tradition. So society may be condemning them to horrible health problems but it's not intentionally inflicting this on them and it's not for entertainment, a important difference I feel.
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