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compass Jun 11th, 2007 00:40

Delhi Metro travel
 
Hi,

I wonder if anyone can help me with understanding metro travel in Delhi better. The trouble is that it is hard to figure out where exactly the metro stations are located in relation to actual places. For instance, where is the metro situated in relation to the Imperial cinema in Paharganj?

How far is the Central Secretariat metro by foot from the intersection between Janpath and Rajpath (the Indira Gandhi National Centre for the Arts, or the National Archive of India)?

Any help would be much appreciated.

-C

saajan_20 Jun 11th, 2007 02:56

DELHI Metro Map



http://dceast.delhigovt.nic.in/metrorail/metromap.htm


hope this helps somewhat

ba9rn Jun 11th, 2007 03:34

The maps on the official site (http://www.delhimetrorail.com/commuters/route_map.html) show the current and future routes, overlaid on the 'real' map, which may give you a better idea of station proximity.

compass Jun 12th, 2007 02:45

Hmmm
 
Thanks for your help, but neither of these maps really tells me where the metro stations are located in relation to actual locations (I have also seen both before). For example, if you were to look at an A-Z map of London, you would see the individual tube stations clearly marked on each street.

So now if I want to get a sense of how far it is from the Central Secretariat station to the National Archives, these maps don't provide any real sense.

Does anyone know of a street map which clearly marks the Delhi metro stations?

-C

ba9rn Jun 12th, 2007 02:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by compass (Post 346620)
... if you were to look at an A-Z map of London, you would see the individual tube stations clearly marked on each street.

You are asking a bit much there!
1) The Delhi Metro is very new, and
2) You won't find anything as detailed as the A-Z for any part of India

Try this ... Get a Lonely Planet (or other) guide of Delhi, then use the map I linked above to overlay the stations on the detailed maps in the guide. That's probably the best you can do, until those maps catch up with the Metro development.

compass Jun 12th, 2007 02:56

Aah, that's what I feared! So I have no way of knowing where the individual metro stations are within a location... dang!

ba9rn Jun 12th, 2007 02:59

You will get close with the Lonely Planet maps though. The stations shown on the official map (linked above) are very accurate, but the road names are not all there. A few minutes marking up the maps in a Delhi guide should get you close.

compass Jun 12th, 2007 03:20

Hmm you make it sound easier than it actually is. For instance, I'm told that the Central Secretariat metro is actually a 15 minute walk from the National Archives, a 20 minute walk from India Gate...

How would you know where to mark the LP maps with metro locations until you've actually done the travel? And what's the point then? See what I mean?

Anyone know what road the Central Secretariat metro is situated on? That would help me a great deal.

-C

ba9rn Jun 12th, 2007 03:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by compass (Post 346630)
How would you know where to mark the LP maps with metro locations until you've actually done the travel? And what's the point then? See what I mean?

No I don't see what you mean... There's no more travel needed than with an A-Z.

1) Get the Lonely Planet Delhi guide
2) Look at this map (which I linked to earlier) - http://www.delhimetrorail.com/commut...big_201004.jpg
3) Mark the stations on the (more detailed) Lonely Planet map

Like I said above, the delhimetro.com map is very accurate - just the street names are missing. You say you have seen it before. There is definitely enough info to mark the stations onto the LP map - I have done it. It is not difficult.

ba9rn Jun 12th, 2007 03:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by compass (Post 346630)
Anyone know what road the Central Secretariat metro is situated on? That would help me a great deal.

Sorry - missed that question.

The station is just north of Rajpath, on Rafi Ahmed Kidwai Marg

compass Jun 12th, 2007 03:48

[QUOTE=ba9rn;346633]No I don't see what you mean... There's no more travel needed than with an A-Z.

1) Get the Lonely Planet Delhi guide
2) Look at this map (which I linked to earlier) - http://www.delhimetrorail.com/commut...big_201004.jpg
3) Mark the stations on the (more detailed) Lonely Planet map

Thanks for your help in the final post - now that's helpful!

I'm quoting your penultimate post because I have an issue with step 3. How would I know where to mark the metro stations on the Lonely Planet map? Other than going there, there is no way I could know that the Central Secretariat station was on Rafi Ahmed Kidwai Marg - now do you see what I mean?

I'm not quibbling over semantics here... you are assuming that one can simply marry the information from the metro map with the street map provided by the Lonely Planet. Not possible, unless you have prior knowledge of the areas in question. Or is there a step you have missed out?!

But anyway, thanks again for the street name.

-C

ba9rn Jun 12th, 2007 03:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by compass (Post 346639)
How would I know where to mark the metro stations on the Lonely Planet map? Other than going there, there is no way I could know that the Central Secretariat station was on Rafi Ahmed Kidwai Marg - now do you see what I mean?

I'm not quibbling over semantics here... you are assuming that one can simply marry the information from the metro map with the street map provided by the Lonely Planet. Not possible, unless you have prior knowledge of the areas in question. Or is there a step you have missed out?

I think you might be being intentionally dim here. If not, apologies. I take it from your previous replies that you can read maps.

There is no missing step, and you do not need to travel. The only thing missing on the map I linked to are (most of the) street names. The LP map does have the names, but not the stations. It really is not difficult to use pattern matching from one map to the other. Why not try it, instead of finding fault with my attempts at helping you.

Here's another piece of help you can pick holes in (though I don't know why I bother)... If you go to Google Maps (or Google Earth) you can see the Metro on the Delhi map (select the satellite and map hybrid). Unfortunately, it was under construction when the photos wer taken. But the track is visible (follow it down from Connaught Place), because they used a dig+cover technique for a lot of the tracks. You do have to look hard to see the Secretariat portion, but it's there.

compass Jun 12th, 2007 04:20

The LP map does have the names, but not the stations. It really is not difficult to use pattern matching from one map to the other. [/QUOTE]

I have the LP map, and I have the metro map. As you point out above, the metro map does not have street names, and the LP map does not have metro stations. I think you are missing the point here. The Central Secretariat station --which is the station that is supposed to take you to the Rashtrapti Bhavan--is about 3kms away from India Gate, the only reason I know this is because a Delhi friend told me.

I find you very rude,and defensive. I was grateful for your advice, and was not criticising you, I'm sorry you choose to see it that way. I was raising genuine concerns, and I am certainly not "dim". Notice I did not resort to name-calling. If you can't offer advice in a civil way, really, I'd rather you did not bother. People post seeking help quite genuinely, not abuse. It's called a community or forum - get it?

ba9rn Jun 12th, 2007 04:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by compass (Post 346639)
Thanks for your help in the final post - now that's helpful!

Sorry, but I found the exclamation mark here was a form of abuse - like you meant 'thanks, but no thanks'. I suggest you re-read your responses to my attempts at assistance - I was deeply upset by your insinuation that I know nothing about map matching.

I fail to see why you cannot pick up the map with the street names on it, and match it to the map with the stations on (it really is accurate - perhaps you find that hard to believe). I did this on mine and it worked OK. Don't blame me if you find it impossible.

If you need distances as well as the street names, Google Maps (did you try that?) will help, though you cannot see the actual stations there.

compass Jun 12th, 2007 04:33

OK, not one to leave things on a sour note, I'm afraid I was reacting to your unfortunate choice of words...

I've checked Google maps, which is very good, so thank you for that suggestion.

I understand now why this misunderstanding has cropped up. You were suggesting an approximate guide, and I was hoping to get a more precise guide. I needed to evaluate distances, as I hope to walk.

Hope this clears up the matter. And thanks again for your help.


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