Why not Pakistan?

Shiver me Timbers · Nov 29th, 2006, 19:38

I'm always amazed at the lack of interest in Pakistan on this forum from foreign members (not Indians, as they seem most interested).

The amount of Pak-related questions pails in comparison to those asked about Nepal, Sri Lanka, and even Bangladesh lately. For a country with so many great attractions, and such great people, this seems to me a great shame.

I'd like to hear some of the factors that discourage people from visiting Pakistan.

beach · Nov 29th, 2006, 19:51

There were some pak enthus here. Volga Volga sometimes back created a pak fans' forum....

iwanttogoback · Nov 29th, 2006, 20:19

conor, i asked the same question some time back, and the few responses basically indicated it was to do with pakistan being a country founded on religious lines.

cyberhippie · Nov 29th, 2006, 22:37

India without the hassles, I'd love to go back but India has kept me busy all these years!!

Yogesh Sarkar · Nov 29th, 2006, 23:21

And may I ask, why Pakistan?

cyberhippie · Nov 29th, 2006, 23:22

Why not??

steven_ber · Nov 29th, 2006, 23:40

I'd love to go, but have to admit that I'm a little scared, there are a lot of Muslim extremists in Pakistan and there is a fair amount of religious intolerance.

I'd rather wait till the worlds a little more stable.

Yogesh Sarkar · Nov 29th, 2006, 23:43

Well frankly speaking I don't find any compelling reason to start a thread to ask people to start discussions regarding Pakistan. I mean if some one wanted to know some thing or wanted to discuss something with regards to Pakistan, wouldn't they just start a thread regarding it?

I can today in the similar fashion start a thread why isn't there are more people discussing motorcycle touring?

Instead of complaining regarding some thing like this, wouldn't I be better off trying to post a question or a thread that would actually stir up constructive conversation regarding the topic I am interested in?

crvlvr · Nov 30th, 2006, 03:03

According to this article, the govt of pakistan is trying to promote tourism: Prime Minister of Pakistan launches tourism plan for Americans...

I think one reason might be the name India has a lot more historical significance than pakistan -- which is onle about 50 years ago.

During partition, there was some contemplation between the leaders as to waht they should call their new countries. Mohammed Ali Jinna, the father of Pakistan, was confident that Indians would not continue to use "India" (actually the official name in Hindi is Bharat), as it was a name given by the foreigners, so he decided not to use it either. Interestingly, the word India comes from the nameof the river Indus which is currently located in Pakistan.

ddevadatta · Nov 30th, 2006, 03:56

Yikes? I say. I would have imagined that there would be a similar forum for Pakistan (and Ireland, or Eqypt etc). This is such a crazy question I am actually dumbfounded. There is a tinge of condesencion in the question as well.

"We are known more by the kind of questions we ask, than the answers we provide." a great quote I might add coined by yours truely...

cyberhippie · Nov 30th, 2006, 04:06

Well except Ireland and Egypt don't border India DD.
I think it's a perfectly reasonable question, since we get a lot of stuff about Nepal, Sri Lanka and Tibet.

I know Conor and he certainly wasn't trying to be condecending!!

PeakXV · Nov 30th, 2006, 05:10

I'm ready to do the Sindh Interior - provided the coast is clear and I don't need an escort/ body guard. Ex-pat Paks in Toronto say I'm crazy even to consider that region .... so for the time being - that's why not!

mt.kailash · Nov 30th, 2006, 06:36

I would assume that since this is "IndiaMike" rather than "PakistanMike" is the answer to your question.Also note that there's only incidental mention of Nepal,Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.
Personally,I've visited Pakistan.The large cities -Lahore and Karachi are hellholes,Rawalpindi is civilised,Peshawar is fascinating.NWFP,Swat,Chitral-heavenly.It's the usual story-off the beaten track-superb,in the political/urban areas-dismal.
Unfortunately the political situation makes visits to the best areas of Pakistan possible for only the most determined.
Lastly if you want a Pakistan Travel forum try
http://forum.virtualtourist.com/foru...an--forum.html

machadinha · Nov 30th, 2006, 07:14

Volga's Pakistan Travel Forum: http://p078.ezboard.com/bpakistantravelforum

Conor, I'm sure you started the thread in good faith but after all your travels you will be aware that there's some difficulties between India and Pakistan? The subject tends to spark unwarranted controversies on this board no matter what angle one takes it seems.

batistuta · Nov 30th, 2006, 07:49

Terrorism (freedom struggle depending on which side of the border one is) and a fragile political situation where tensions can simmer easily.
But the reason to visit can be to visit the country of the recent best selling author of fiction competing with J .k . Rowling for magical concotions Mr Pervez musharaff and his magical In the line of fire.

Nov 29th, 2006, 19:38	#1
Shiver me Timbers Colder than a well digger's ass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: North Atlantic Posts: 1,663	Why not Pakistan? I'm always amazed at the lack of interest in Pakistan on this forum from foreign members (not Indians, as they seem most interested). The amount of Pak-related questions pails in comparison to those asked about Nepal, Sri Lanka, and even Bangladesh lately. For a country with so many great attractions, and such great people, this seems to me a great shame. I'd like to hear some of the factors that discourage people from visiting Pakistan.

Nov 29th, 2006, 23:21	#5
Yogesh Sarkar Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Delhi (India) Posts: 1,131	And may I ask, why Pakistan? __________________ My Travelogues \| My Blog \| Ladakh Travel Guide

Nov 29th, 2006, 23:40	#7
steven_ber Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: London, England. Posts: 9,784	I'd love to go, but have to admit that I'm a little scared, there are a lot of Muslim extremists in Pakistan and there is a fair amount of religious intolerance. I'd rather wait till the worlds a little more stable. __________________ . How to get helpful replies to your transport/Itinerary questions. Train information. RAC & Waitlists explained.

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ddevadatta Finger Licking Good Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 907	Yikes? Yikes? I say. I would have imagined that there would be a similar forum for Pakistan (and Ireland, or Eqypt etc). This is such a crazy question I am actually dumbfounded. There is a tinge of condesencion in the question as well. "We are known more by the kind of questions we ask, than the answers we provide." a great quote I might add coined by yours truely... __________________ Ayurvedic cure for an Indian headache

Nov 30th, 2006, 05:10	#12
PeakXV Naan.tering Nabob Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Abode of Glooscap Posts: 4,515	I'm ready to do the Sindh Interior - provided the coast is clear and I don't need an escort/ body guard. Ex-pat Paks in Toronto say I'm crazy even to consider that region .... so for the time being - that's why not! __________________ What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lives within us. ~ Oliver Wendell Holmes Don't go to India ~ Pre-trip Warnings & Misconceptions?

Nov 29th, 2006, 19:51	#2
beach Lost in translation Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: India ! Posts: 2,234	There were some pak enthus here. Volga Volga sometimes back created a pak fans' forum....

Nov 29th, 2006, 20:19	#3
iwanttogoback is sorry Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: perth Posts: 1,595	conor, i asked the same question some time back, and the few responses basically indicated it was to do with pakistan being a country founded on religious lines.

Nov 29th, 2006, 22:37	#4
cyberhippie Account Closed by User's Request Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 6,009	India without the hassles, I'd love to go back but India has kept me busy all these years!!

Nov 29th, 2006, 23:22	#6
cyberhippie Account Closed by User's Request Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 6,009	Why not??

Nov 29th, 2006, 23:43	#8
Yogesh Sarkar Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Delhi (India) Posts: 1,131	Well frankly speaking I don't find any compelling reason to start a thread to ask people to start discussions regarding Pakistan. I mean if some one wanted to know some thing or wanted to discuss something with regards to Pakistan, wouldn't they just start a thread regarding it? I can today in the similar fashion start a thread why isn't there are more people discussing motorcycle touring? Instead of complaining regarding some thing like this, wouldn't I be better off trying to post a question or a thread that would actually stir up constructive conversation regarding the topic I am interested in?

Nov 30th, 2006, 03:03	#9
crvlvr Guru Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: On the move in India.. Posts: 4,535	According to this article, the govt of pakistan is trying to promote tourism: Prime Minister of Pakistan launches tourism plan for Americans... I think one reason might be the name India has a lot more historical significance than pakistan -- which is onle about 50 years ago. During partition, there was some contemplation between the leaders as to waht they should call their new countries. Mohammed Ali Jinna, the father of Pakistan, was confident that Indians would not continue to use "India" (actually the official name in Hindi is Bharat), as it was a name given by the foreigners, so he decided not to use it either. Interestingly, the word India comes from the nameof the river Indus which is currently located in Pakistan.

Nov 30th, 2006, 04:06	#11
cyberhippie Account Closed by User's Request Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 6,009	Well except Ireland and Egypt don't border India DD. I think it's a perfectly reasonable question, since we get a lot of stuff about Nepal, Sri Lanka and Tibet. I know Conor and he certainly wasn't trying to be condecending!!

Nov 30th, 2006, 06:36	#13
mt.kailash Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: hurn Posts: 99	I would assume that since this is "IndiaMike" rather than "PakistanMike" is the answer to your question.Also note that there's only incidental mention of Nepal,Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. Personally,I've visited Pakistan.The large cities -Lahore and Karachi are hellholes,Rawalpindi is civilised,Peshawar is fascinating.NWFP,Swat,Chitral-heavenly.It's the usual story-off the beaten track-superb,in the political/urban areas-dismal. Unfortunately the political situation makes visits to the best areas of Pakistan possible for only the most determined. Lastly if you want a Pakistan Travel forum try http://forum.virtualtourist.com/foru...an--forum.html

Nov 30th, 2006, 07:14	#14
machadinha Not Your Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: yörp Posts: 11,445	Volga's Pakistan Travel Forum: http://p078.ezboard.com/bpakistantravelforum Conor, I'm sure you started the thread in good faith but after all your travels you will be aware that there's some difficulties between India and Pakistan? The subject tends to spark unwarranted controversies on this board no matter what angle one takes it seems. __________________ Reading tips, all picked up at IndiaMike : INDAX's A Comprehensive Guide To India / Dinoj Surendran's Desi Humor / ITHVC on Culture Shock & Travel Health / JetLag Travel Guides For the Undiscerning Traveller / India Travel Links

Nov 30th, 2006, 07:49	#15
batistuta Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,728	Terrorism (freedom struggle depending on which side of the border one is) and a fragile political situation where tensions can simmer easily. But the reason to visit can be to visit the country of the recent best selling author of fiction competing with J .k . Rowling for magical concotions Mr Pervez musharaff and his magical In the line of fire.

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