What is the temperature at Everest Base Camp for Nov.08

AvidTrekker

Price USD 636 per person for 15 days equals USD 42.4 per day. Its a steal. Quite cheap.

Let us know whether you were happy with the deal afterwards. If you got great service, we can recommend these guys to other trekkers.

I know US based and EU based outfits which charge 80 to 120 USD per day. Of course, the service is top notch and 2 days Kathmandu stay would be in a four / five star hotel.

Purchase thermal underwear as Aishah suggests. You will get it in Thamel (KTM). In NOV its a MUST.
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machadinha

Trekker members, help us out here:

It doesn't sound like this company is giving OP much by way of information/preparation to go on. Would it be wise to go with them, and/or can someone provide a list of things to think about before setting off?

OP asked about footwear somewhere above (got merged into this thread) which went unanswered so far, for example. But a full idea of what to expect and what to take into consideration might be preferable, if someone's willing to provide it.

Oh and ps do heed Dzibead's words re: alcohol + altitude. It's not just the cold that it won't sit well with.

A couple of good threads on AMS here, there are others:

rules of Mountain trekking and precautions (Includes other useful guidelines and a packing list -- for Mt. Kilimanjaro, Tanzania, mind [!], its peak at 5,900 meters.)
Coming down for air...AMS (Manali-Leh)... you better acclimatize!
Manali - Leh highway, how to avoid AMS?

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AvidTrekker

In my own polite way, I have hinted that the Company sounds too good to be true. In a day and age where all trekking Companies Copy-paste "Rules, advise & precautions" from competitors' websites; I wonder why the Company is not providing Copy-Paste information.

After getting unnecessarily blasted on IM by members with far lesser experience than mine, I have learnt the diplomatic art of "never to give a categorical reply".

Having said that, this is what I say (shout) categorically:

"DON'T GO IN NOVEMBER".

Its OK or even warm for somebody who lives in Alaska.... but Malaysia ??? On three nights it will go ten to twenty Celsius below zero. I doubt if someone from a equatorial coastal region will enjoy this.

(Here too, I know that 999 times out of 1000 this sort of advice is completely ignored. I accept it. Hence my "diplomatic" replies)


There are enough threads on footwear (incl trekking footwear) to keep you occupied three to four hours. Just a matter of using the "search" function.

Nick-H

I know that if I were taking this member on a weekend sailing trip in the English Channel, I would have given her a lot more information about the necessary clothing, some instruction about the risks involved, how to stay safe.

Even a day out on the moors can be spoilt, and, at worst, rendered dangerous by not having the correct clothing.

I notice too that janetllc is posting from Malaysia. She lives in a tropical climate, even closer to the equator than I do. Her system, as mine is becoming, is tuned to heat.

If I visit UK, their nice spring day of 15C makes me feel cold; 10-plus-C would have me shivering. Minus 10? A temperature difference of maybe forty or more degrees from what she is used to? Whew! Brrrrr.

Janet, I hope your Himalayan dream comes true, but I think you need to check out your preparations very carefully.

<Cross-posted with Avid --- who does know mountains>

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machadinha

Heheh, I know, hence my pushing on a little Your and Nick's answer (and some other subtler ones already given) were indeed what I was pushing for.

Janet, as someone who hasn't climbed rocks (not: trekked) beyond 200 meters up or so and that a long time ago I'd urge you to heed them well (AvidTrekker must be one of the most experienced on this board and to my knowledge always gives level-headed advice) & maybe reconsider the whole thing, or find a company that will send you on your way better prepared. But -- over to you. Your questions so far just don't give the impression you have even the basics covered. That isn't meant to sound rude, I wouldn't know the basics either -- but it would seem important to me for such an event. Going to Everest "even" at Base Camp and my company not telling me about shoes and clothing and goggles and food arrangements and other such simple but vital basics would have me seriously worried, if not outright suspicious of them.

dzibead

So true. It sounds as if this company isn't providing much information, which is maybe why it's so cheap. I wouldn't know about the price, but AvidTrekker is knowledgeable and I trust what he says. The saying "you get what you pay for" is probably true in this case, and I, for one, would not choose to go "budget" on an Everest Base Camp trek. It's potentially just too dangerous. Compare the information janet seems to have been given (or not given) with what's available about a fall EBC trek on the website for Mountain Madness, a very reputable U.S. mountaineering and trekking outfit:
http://www.mountainmadness.com/trekking/asia_base.cfm

Wow! This is making me want to go!

Janet, this can happen, but do it RIGHT!

janetllc

Dear all,
thanks for the valuable advices and tips by Aishah, Avidtrekker, Nick_H,machadinha, dzibead.., i m searching thru web site plus email..

http://www.green-lotus-trekking.com/...rekking.php #

Ya, i m from malaysia, i really cant stand such a cold weather, but my friend say, if u try other month, there will be v cloudy, cant really view the whole scenery..

i love mountain, use to running hash (run n climb mountain) every Saturday..but ever since i injured my knee, i seldom go for it...So, i play badminton every day to keep my fitness (represent State)...This is part of my reason why i wan to go EBC..I wan to go while i siill ever fit to do it... but the weather killing my thought now. maybe i should reschedule my trip..what is the best season going there ?

crvlvr

From the company wesbite:
Let's just say I wont be booking of their tours unless I can cerify the testimony of previous guests...

machadinha

That's interesting; the gist of the info on Janet's page is a direct copy of some of that on the page given by Dzibead. Which came first or if both originated elsewhere is anyone's guess of course.

That Green Lotus FAQ page btw does list an extensive and itemized packing list, as well as suggestions on what to store or hire/buy there, info about food provided, about guides and porters, temperatures, and so on: http://www.green-lotus-trekking.com/FAQ/

Janet, wasn't that Mount Kinabalu in Sabah you did at 4,100 meters cold? I'd expect it would have given you some preparation in any case -- although I read now the trek up and down there takes just 2 days. Then again from what I read the trek to EBC doesn't require special mountaineering skills as such either, except for a good overall physical fitness. I'd still like to feel well-prepared and well-looked-after in doing so though. Friends have lost the track (and found it back later) on a day walk by themselves in the lower Nepali mountains out of season when there weren't too many others around, can feel suddenly very lonely I gather. Just for instance. From what I've been reading now straying off the track in bad weather isn't a good idea on said Kinabalu either.

kmalik

EBC is a trek my wife and I are thinking of doing, so I have informed myself a bit on it. From the posts by OP, I do feel that there is some serious information deficit that OP needs to correct. There are plenty of good sources around. Look at the sites like yetizone. There are tons of guidebooks (such as this or this), articles like this and even packing lists available with a quick google search for a start.

Other part that's a bit suspect is the 'tour operator' bit. Since the teahouse lodging fee is not included - what are the services provided by the tour operator? Guide? Porter(s)? Airfare? Why not rent them yourself? This is not necessarily a trek that requires you to go though a tour operator.

I'll comment on a few points that the OP brought up:

Timing: Indeed October and November are the peak season, so November trek is not so questionable as some comments here suggest. Do remember that it is a teahouse trek, so you are not camping out in a tent (unless that's what your tour operator has planned for you). All the same, it will be cold. If you can't stand it - stay away!

Itinerary: The plan the OP listed seemed like an invitation to AMS. Please educate youself about it here. Do not rely on the tour operator to watch out for you in this matter. At least one of the guide books specifically mentions that tour operators often sell expedited tours, from which more of the AMS cases emerge. Either take the the time to build up the conditioning to altitude or scrap the trip. For us, we'll only do it if we can spend something between 20-25 days on this trek.

Equipment: Some of the ideas like polythene bags over the socks can be downright dangerous. When you hike, you sweat - and the polythene bag would hold the moisture next to the body. In really cold weather - such sweat can freeze and is an excellent way to get hypothermia.

That's just my two cents. The good news is that there is excellent information on this trek available on the web (not IM), and the OP needs to educate him/her-self more.

janetllc

Machadinha, u r right, Climbing Mount Kota Kinabalu only takes 2 days, from my experience before, 0 to -1 degree at night..And only stay one night there, cant compare with EBC, u need to spend 12 night, colder again, continuous...not so easy, my friend..moreover i m consider thin n tall, not much fat to keep warm,

Hi Kmalik,
They agree to include the accomadation so the total trip will be USD636 per person but not include meal..i also agree if they r not include lodging, no point for me to look for the trekking company

The AMS, i never experience before, when i was in Mount Kota Kinabalu 4095m, quite alright for me, ...EBC is higher, is there any medication can ease this kind of symptom??

I have merged your posts, janetllc - Aishah

Aishah

Check out those threads posted by Machadinha earlier re altitude sickness. If you still have a query, post in one of them.

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kmalik

My post contains a link to comprehensive information about AMS. The Wiki entry has good information - including the link to the link I originally gave. Since your life might depend on it, I suggest you read it instead of taking general advice from members, however well informed. It is not the highest altitude you have been to, instead the main determinant of onset of HACE/HAPE is the sleeping altitude. While there are medications that help, you might do well to understand their limits and efficacy.

janetllc

Thanks Aishah & kmalik, i will gather all the informations, study it and preparation for my trip

I learn a lots, useful tips thru this forum, thanks all..

sagarsunilus

read "one night at the top of world' by Rebacca Stefen the first british lady to climb mount everest.
one get an overview of the journey from close.
sunil sagar from india