"Suda makan" means?

IndeGuru · Jan 25th, 2007, 23:58

Appreciate some quick answers: what does 'Suda makan'mean & what's the origin of this word?

Anyone, any clues? appreciate some help

Thanks

capt_mahajan · Jan 26th, 2007, 00:05

in what language? ok, see you are in delhi

in hindi, makan means house.

suda=?? dunno if this is a hindi word.

"ooda" means "his" or "hers" in punjabi.

so ooda makan would mean "his (or her) house

but i am guessing. make any sense?

IndeGuru · Jan 26th, 2007, 00:11

Thanks for your efforts but i guess its some arabic word, dont know what it mean & have no clue about where it comes from, but i need some ans ASAP. Searched net, nothing there as well

SANJAY_DEL · Jan 26th, 2007, 00:18

If you are saying sadda makaan in Punjabi, it means "our house".

capt_mahajan · Jan 26th, 2007, 00:29

another shot in the dark

i know makan means food/eat in indonesia, and malaysia
and now i found out
sudah=already, by now, yet ...(in indonesia)

which would mean "eaten already?"

this is getting bizarre.

SANJAY_DEL · Jan 26th, 2007, 00:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndeGuru

Appreciate some quick answers: what does 'Suda makan'mean & what's the origin of this word?

Anyone, any clues? appreciate some help

Thanks

If you could explain the context in which you are asking this??

IndeGuru · Jan 26th, 2007, 10:57

As per my findings, it means that did you have your dinner/food(though i still need concrete proof). Very Close Cap'n, where does it originates? Indoensia,Malaysia?
Thanks again

capt_mahajan · Jan 26th, 2007, 11:42

Bahasha Indonesia and Bahasha Malaysia (the languages of both countries) sound almost identical to my untrained ear, so I guess it could be used in both countries.

Or, indeed, have originated from either of them.

Interestingly, a lot of words are derived from Sanskrit, so an Indian in these countries runs into familiar words. They don't seem to have any script, though, so English alphabets are used.

And Indonesia is the only Muslim country I know where the Hindu televised epics, The Mahabharat and Ramayan, were avidly watched weekly with local language subtitles.

machadinha · Jan 27th, 2007, 02:07

A couple of "maybe's," i.e., I don't know the ins and outs of it either:

I think Bahasa Indonesia and Bahasa Melayu/Bahasa Malaysia were both derived from the Malay language (or the latter may be synonymous with it). In the Indonesian case I think it had been used as a lingua franca for a long time, and was adopted as such during the freedom struggle and with subsequent independence, as a need was perceived to have a common language among its many disparate peoples with all their different tongues, not dissimilar to the Indian situation perhaps.

I believe it was along those same lines that the Roman script was adopted, by way of simplification and following up on colonial writing systems that had been introduced during the preceding centuries (and it's said to be a very easy language to master). There certainly seem to have been older scripts for Malay however, not surprisingly perhaps. Wikipedia mentions Pallava influences among others, as well as a modified Arabic script called Jawi.

The Sanskrit connotations, as well as those TV shows, are probably easily explained by the strong historical Indian Hindu and Buddhist (and shall we say colonial...?) presence in the area. Places like Bali, predominantly Hindu still, are likewise renowned for their live stagings of these performances.

The word "bahasa" itself means nothing more than "language" it seems, said to be derived from the Sanskrit.

capt_mahajan · Jan 27th, 2007, 08:51

'Bhasha' means language in Hindi, too.

machadinha · Jan 27th, 2007, 09:03

Yes thanks, that's what I gathered. From the Sanskrit I guess? Wikipedia lists Thai: phasa; Hindi, Telugu, Urdu (used colloquially), Malayalam: bhasha; Tamil, Kannada: bhashay.

I read a variant of Malay is spoken in southern Thailand (not so surprising), called Yawi.

The various forms of the language are said to be related yet quite distinct, but mutually intelligible to varying degrees.

Wikipedia really drifts off into esotericism on subjects like these, depending on what supposedly interrelated article you read (subjects related to India are funnily notorious for this -- I was reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayyappa today, makes no sense at all, but see what you make of it); but it remains fascinating to see how people from widely different backgrounds managed to communicate over the centuries.

Jan 25th, 2007, 23:58	#1
IndeGuru Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New Delhi- national capital region Posts: 240	"Suda makan" means? Appreciate some quick answers: what does 'Suda makan'mean & what's the origin of this word? Anyone, any clues? appreciate some help Thanks

Jan 27th, 2007, 02:07	#9
machadinha Not Your Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: yörp Posts: 11,445	A couple of "maybe's," i.e., I don't know the ins and outs of it either: I think Bahasa Indonesia and Bahasa Melayu/Bahasa Malaysia were both derived from the Malay language (or the latter may be synonymous with it). In the Indonesian case I think it had been used as a lingua franca for a long time, and was adopted as such during the freedom struggle and with subsequent independence, as a need was perceived to have a common language among its many disparate peoples with all their different tongues, not dissimilar to the Indian situation perhaps. I believe it was along those same lines that the Roman script was adopted, by way of simplification and following up on colonial writing systems that had been introduced during the preceding centuries (and it's said to be a very easy language to master). There certainly seem to have been older scripts for Malay however, not surprisingly perhaps. Wikipedia mentions Pallava influences among others, as well as a modified Arabic script called Jawi. The Sanskrit connotations, as well as those TV shows, are probably easily explained by the strong historical Indian Hindu and Buddhist (and shall we say colonial...?) presence in the area. Places like Bali, predominantly Hindu still, are likewise renowned for their live stagings of these performances. The word "bahasa" itself means nothing more than "language" it seems, said to be derived from the Sanskrit. __________________ Reading tips, all picked up at IndiaMike : INDAX's A Comprehensive Guide To India / Dinoj Surendran's Desi Humor / ITHVC on Culture Shock & Travel Health / JetLag Travel Guides For the Undiscerning Traveller / India Travel Links Last edited by machadinha : Jan 27th, 2007 at 09:08.

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Jan 26th, 2007, 00:05	#2
capt_mahajan Dis member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 10,874	in what language? ok, see you are in delhi in hindi, makan means house. suda=?? dunno if this is a hindi word. "ooda" means "his" or "hers" in punjabi. so ooda makan would mean "his (or her) house but i am guessing. make any sense?

Jan 26th, 2007, 00:11	#3
IndeGuru Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New Delhi- national capital region Posts: 240	Thanks for your efforts but i guess its some arabic word, dont know what it mean & have no clue about where it comes from, but i need some ans ASAP. Searched net, nothing there as well

Jan 26th, 2007, 00:18	#4
SANJAY_DEL Account Closed Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NEW DELHI, INDIA Posts: 1,351	If you are saying *sadda makaan* in Punjabi, it means "our house".

Jan 26th, 2007, 00:29	#5
capt_mahajan Dis member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 10,874	another shot in the dark i know makan means food/eat in indonesia, and malaysia and now i found out sudah=already, by now, yet ...(in indonesia) which would mean "eaten already?" this is getting bizarre.

Jan 26th, 2007, 10:57	#7
IndeGuru Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New Delhi- national capital region Posts: 240	As per my findings, it means that did you have your dinner/food(though i still need concrete proof). Very Close Cap'n, where does it originates? Indoensia,Malaysia? Thanks again

Jan 26th, 2007, 11:42	#8
capt_mahajan Dis member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 10,874	Bahasha Indonesia and Bahasha Malaysia (the languages of both countries) sound almost identical to my untrained ear, so I guess it could be used in both countries. Or, indeed, have originated from either of them. Interestingly, a lot of words are derived from Sanskrit, so an Indian in these countries runs into familiar words. They don't seem to have any script, though, so English alphabets are used. And Indonesia is the only Muslim country I know where the Hindu televised epics, The Mahabharat and Ramayan, were avidly watched weekly with local language subtitles.

Jan 27th, 2007, 08:51	#10
capt_mahajan Dis member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 10,874	'Bhasha' means language in Hindi, too.

Jan 27th, 2007, 09:03	#11
machadinha Not Your Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: yörp Posts: 11,445	Yes thanks, that's what I gathered. From the Sanskrit I guess? Wikipedia lists Thai: phasa; Hindi, Telugu, Urdu (used colloquially), Malayalam: bhasha; Tamil, Kannada: bhashay. I read a variant of Malay is spoken in southern Thailand (not so surprising), called Yawi. The various forms of the language are said to be related yet quite distinct, but mutually intelligible to varying degrees. Wikipedia really drifts off into esotericism on subjects like these, depending on what supposedly interrelated article you read (subjects related to India are funnily notorious for this -- I was reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayyappa today, makes no sense at all, but see what you make of it); but it remains fascinating to see how people from widely different backgrounds managed to communicate over the centuries.

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