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Old Mar 18th, 2008, 00:30   #151
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lots of info, photos, videos, etc. at this new website

"Dear fellow Tibetans and Friends of Tibet,
We have started a new website www.Meyul.com to highlight the on-going protests against Chinese Rule in Tibet and of course the persecution of Tibetans by Chinese Troops."
it seems that http://www.meyul.com/ has been disbaled
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Old Mar 18th, 2008, 00:32   #152
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I wonder how long Indiamike will be available in China?
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Old Mar 18th, 2008, 00:39   #154
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China has always pursued a belligerent policy towards most of its neighbors except those receiving military aid from it. Look at wots happening in Taiwan, in Tibet and elsewhere including its increasing but indirect threats in Arunachal. If the Chinese Govt is claiming "no human rights violation" in Tibet then why the media blackout? It has been following a policy of "brute force" and the recent spate of uprisings are a result of its high handedness towards the people of Tibet and their supporters. The Dragon's got to be tamed else its gonna keep breathing fire and burning others! Wonder why USA has not condemned the Chinese aggression? ;-)

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Old Mar 18th, 2008, 00:43   #155
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Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@meyul.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

Additionally, a 500 Internal Server Error error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.


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Old Mar 18th, 2008, 01:03   #156
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I wonder how long Indiamike will be available in China?
ha! I know I've (well, at least my yoga blog) been banned in China -- the number of readers from China stopped at 30 a long time ago.... but hey, I've been thrown out of places before...

China has also now blocked YouTube -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHnB-VOxHF4

UN Council Keeps Silent

"The U.N. Security Council will likely keep silent about China's crackdown on demonstrations in Tibet, mostly due to belief that provoking Beijing would accomplish nothing, diplomats said on Monday....

"The issue did not come up in the council," China's Deputy permanent U.N. representative Liu Zhenmin told Reuters after a meeting of the council on unrelated issues.

"This has nothing to do with peace and security," he said. "It is local violence, ... a domestic issue.""
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Old Mar 18th, 2008, 01:09   #157
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mostly due to belief that provoking Beijing would accomplish nothing
Well quite. They just don't care what anyone else thinks.

But then, that doesn't excuse the cop-out.
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Old Mar 18th, 2008, 01:11   #158
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is there even a point to the United Nations anymore?
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Old Mar 18th, 2008, 01:18   #159
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at the end of the day - the UN is nothing more then the collective will of its members (or more importantly, the security council - and if they don't want it - it doesn't happen). Hmmmm....who's the biggest permanent member of the security council?
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Old Mar 18th, 2008, 01:22   #160
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Merged

mod note: have merged the two threads (Worldwide Tibetan Protests and Shops on Fire...) into one main thread.
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Their server is just overloaded.....

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Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@meyul.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

Additionally, a 500 Internal Server Error error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

I just logged on to their site after a few attempts. Their servers are just probably overloaded. Maybe the DRUDGEREPORT linked to them, that would cause a crash
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Old Mar 18th, 2008, 04:57   #162
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Investors await bear report, fed meeting.

Just by reading this article you can decide for yourself if the recession we're in right now is because of George W or the housing market/credit crisis.
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I rest my case
I think you're dividing two things that are actually connected: Had there been proper oversight of loan practices, the problems could have been prevented. But because rising housing prices, speculative real estate, etc. gave the illusion of economic growth, GWB et al. were willing to look the other way.
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Old Mar 18th, 2008, 05:07   #163
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Nepal has knuckled under

It looks like Nepal has agreed to work with China to cut off access to Everest in order to prevent protests there.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...ow_ article=1
We can only hope that this, together with actions by the Chinese in preparation for the Olympics, will show the world the kind of country we're dealing with -- and that this will result in wider, stronger support not only for Tibet but also for Taiwan and for the Uyghur people of Xinjiang.

For an informative overview of the China / Tibet situation, see John Derbyshire's new article on National Review Online (he's a total right-winger, but spot-on in his take here -- especially in punching holes in every Chinese argument): http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...Q4MmExZmMxNGU=
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I dunno if you are joking or not...but please don't feed Chinese paranoia with these ideas.

There are Tibetans serving in our armed forces (Indo-Tibetan Border Police). Many Tibetans were part of the Special Frontier Force that we used to invade Bangladesh in the liberation war of 71.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/jan/08spec.htm

It is hard to not feel for a community that has adopted us so much that they are willing to fight and die for a war not of their own to liberate a country not of their own.
Joking?
I've seen their training area and seen them training. Easily accessible too. The Chinese know all about it. Probably send their spies around regularly too.

Tibetans were a part of SFF?
The SFF is alive and well and stacked predominantly, but not exclusively, with Tibetans. That's them referred to above.
There are no Tibetans serving in the ITBP or other para-military as they are not Indian citizens. SFF is the only exception.

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It was the US which planned to use Tibetans in India to raise a militia...they were very "China = Commie = EVIL!!!" those days. It would never have worked and would have turned into another Bay of Pigs type fiasco. India wisely refused to facilitate such things.
US planned? India refused?
Chushi Gangdruk was a reality between 1958 and 1974. The CIA was already training the first lot of volunteers in Colorado in '58. In '62 the SFF was raised from among Tibetan refugees. Between '60 and '72 Chushi Gangdruk's guerrilla base in Mustang (Nepal) received full support and regular visits from CIA and (after '62) SFF personnel. And bloody good these guerrillas were too - China never succeeded in building the highway to Sinkiang becos of their regular ambushes.

In '72 after the Great Thaw with China, Nixon withdrew CIA support. The Mustang base continued upto '74, by when the King of Nepal, under pressure from the Chinese, sent the Army in and the base was wiped out.

http://www.chushigangdruk.org/
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Orphans of the Cold War by John Kenneth Knaus is a good book on the Tibetan guerrillas by a guy who was involved in in training them: http://www.amazon.com/Orphans-Americ...5794570&sr=8-1
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