Payment for visa to europe?

aldayisgood

i have been offered a job by Deutsche bank SAE in spain, how do i acheck the authenticity.I have been asked to make a pmt of 1300 Euros for residents visa and work permit.

machadinha

Heheh, funny question, and welcome to IndiaMike

I reckon the official Deutsche Bank shouldn't be hard to find on the web; and I guess a phone call to them to verify you're really dealing with them would be a worthwhile and small investment before you pack up.

Good luck with it. I'd be wary of just forwarding any money like that yes. Was this something you received in the mail by way of a chain letter looking too good to be true or something? I'd be surprised if they would handle your visa stuff for you at the drop of some money (quite a bit of money actually, I can't think of any reason why it would cost as much. Nor are visas obviously on sale as such), and the work permit should be their business anyway I think. You'd hope they'd be offering you some money for getting on board instead. Anyway, just check with them.

Their Spanish branch is here I believe: http://www.db.com/spain/index_en.htm...avmeta_english

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edwardseco

Wise to be careful as it is a common scam. I am dumious that the company isn't paying this as a matter of normal practice..

Nick-H

There has been another post here within recent months of somebody who was "offerred a job", sent money, and then found he had lost his cash.

Perhaps some searching and browsing might turn it up.

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The_Londoner

Be careful, be very careful. There was TV documentary on people targeting Indians looking for job abroad. They ask for money for Visa and then some more.. unfortunately many end up with shattered dreams and loosing large amount of money.. As one said, call the Bank's Personal/Recruitment department and ask for them to authenticate the offer. If it came from an Job Agency, ask the bank to make sure they are using such agency. Bank telephone number will be very easy to find.

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mairangi_vice

id say youre being scammed. Did you actually apply for a job with Deutsche bank? Big companies like that dont go around offering random people jobs. Also visas do not cost that much, and generally have to arranged by you through the countries embassy in India, as it requires your passport.

The_Londoner

From my recollection of the documentary, the fraudster may even have a Representative in India who will only talk you into handing over the money and run.. Its a lot of money..

nycank

Do you speak and write spanish ? Deutsche Bank has atleat one or two branches in India. Typically a bank will have a face-to-face interview with the person being offered a potential job overseas. It is strange that you'd be asked to serve in Espana directly without some training/debriefing in Germany.

The Visa for indian citizens (long term) will be done through the employer; and costs about rs 4000 which is less than 100 Euro. The employer in Espana should have receivd an authorization to hire you (as opposed to another EU national) before you can even begin to assemble necessary paperwork to send to Spanish Embassy in India.

There is no work permit - That is what your employer gets from the national government - a kind of like a waiver. This starts the ball rolling at your end. It takes few weeks with all paperwork in place to get a residence visa.

In other words, it smells like a scam.

nycank

Not knowing diddly-squat about OP and his/her qualification - After further investigation I found that DB has many branches in India and about 6000 employees in major cities of india. I'm sure OP can go and walk into the nearest one and ask the branch manager or Information Officer about the authenticity....

http://www.db.com/india/


Hey maybe I should think about selling the Brooklyn Bridge in India

Nick-H

It doesn't tell you much, other than confirming that scams happen, but you should see the experience of the member in -->this thread

Khandoma

A couple of precisions.

To work in Spain, you need to be approved personnally by the Spanish Secretary / Ministry of Labour.

This will happen only when you can provide :
Papers for yourself :
Passport and photos
A health certificate
For some nationals, a good behaviour certificate (I'm serious here)
You also need to prove that you have enough money for your stay as well as for your return ticket.
This money should be in a bank. Not a wad of cash in someone's pocket.

Papers from the bank (employer) :
Application form, official job offer form, fiscal identity, clearance from the Tax Department that the company has paid taxes, proof that the job has been offered to Spanish citizens and didn't find takers. You must be given copies of all these documents.

Once all these conditions are fulfilled, you need to go in person to the Consulate, with the documents indicated on the Embassy website. The visa cannot be handed to anyone other than you.It takes at least one month to process a work visa request.

In short, anyone saying, give me the money and I'll process it for you, or anyone saying you'll get a work visa without seeing a work contract first, or anyone not asking for tons of paperwork, is not telling the truth.

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machadinha

(ps Sorry for calling it a "funny" question at first above; that was well before I thought of all the possible implications.)

Apart from just losing your money which might be merciful in comparison, there have been cases highlighted in the Dutch press involving young Nepali workers (and any number of other nationalities of course, Filipinos for instance seem to be popular for this for whatever reason -- possibilities in the sex trade perhaps?) being lured over here with the promise of excellent studies and medical or other careers (medical is esp. popular as there's a known and well-advertized shortage of workers in the field, no little owing to poor working conditions btw), only to find themselves stuck in some overpopulated and overpriced yet unkept pension (think twenty people in bunk beds in a 4-person room in some anonymous suburb at rents that ought to get you an apartment instead if only you met all the legalities and knew your way around -- yes, I've spoken to such people. When I once offered a Pakistani friend in this position a temporary board while we would look for something better, he preferred the windowless basement he'd found by then instead as at least it guaranteed his privacy and he didn't feel like a burden to anyone there), with perhaps the occasional temporary piecework job if you're lucky, some "pocket money" sometimes thrown in to keep you from outright starving if you're lucky again, etc.

They are typically the brightest kid of the family, who may have invested their entire life savings in sending them abroad, and so out of shame they dare not tell their folks what it's really like, and keep sending hopeful reports back home instead, finding themselves even more isolated in the process, etc.

It's really awful, and what can I say, but to be very very wary of ending up like this. I have no advice how to go about it, other than to check check and double-check what you can, which luckily with today's internet and telecommunications (never forget about the simple use of telephones!) and, indeed, international branches, should be possible to a degree you'd think, or if it's not or you come up with dead ends instead, then think not twice but thrice and then preferably some more about it.

ps I'd agree Khandoma, as with most if not all EU countries, immigration to or legally working in Spain by non-EU citizens is not at all said to be easy, and that is a vast understatement.

Nick-H

I hope we're not costing the OP a job here, but it isn't looking good, I'm afraid.

Looks like they haven't been back to check the responses, though, although its only been a couple of days.

edwardseco

Sad feelings..

vdvoort

Sounds like one of the well-known Nigeria scams. Not that easy to get a residents visa and working permit in the EU nowadays (if not almost impossible, unless you have exceptional skills...not saying you don't ;-) ). But, very easy to verify if the offer is genuine, just call them; general phone number of the Deutsche Bank in Spain: 0034-933665101. Good luck.

Enjoy!