pakistan visa and israel passport stamp???

chuckstar · Aug 8th, 2005, 23:02

i haven't been able to find any information about this....does anybody know if one can get a visa for pakistan if they have an israel stamp in their passport?

Digital Drifter · Aug 9th, 2005, 00:11

Isn't that Trouble with a Capital T? :-)

Sorry, no clue on that aspect of visa. But the US sec of State has been everywhere; India, Pak & Israel.

Assuming you're an american, that means....

chuckstar · Aug 9th, 2005, 00:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Drifter

Isn't that Trouble with a Capital T? :-)

Sorry, no clue on that aspect of visa. But the US sec of State has been everywhere; India, Pak & Israel.

Assuming you're an american, that means....

yeah...i am american

chuckstar · Aug 9th, 2005, 00:32

i have heard a lot of positive stuff about travel in pakistan....sure i am aware that there are travel warnings issued for pakistan.....but then again..some of these warnings could just be paranoia as well.....
of course i would take any warning seriously, i know there are places that are dangerous, but i think those places are defined and off limits.....

chuckstar · Aug 9th, 2005, 00:38

i know that a lot of countries in the middle east and persian gulf do not accept israeli passports or passports with israeli stamps...i hears as well some airlines may not allow people to fly with them if they have israeli stamps in their passports as well.......
i understand that israelis are barred from traveling to pakistan...but i have not found anything mentioning travelers with the stamp in their passports

Arun · Aug 9th, 2005, 00:41

I have heard that this is impossible. Same goes for US passports issued in Israel, of course (like mine).

To those of you who have not yet been to Israel, and whose documents remain "untainted" - I understand that passport control in Israel will, if asked, place the entry stamp on a separate piece of paper to avoid problems in the future.

Of course, this can be a problem if you then cross the border into Egypt of Jordan (which is possible nowadays), since the Egyptian or Jordanian entry stamp can indicate that you entered from Israel ... these people are just too determined!

docgirl2005 · Aug 9th, 2005, 00:58

Can someone explain this to me? I dont get it..If we make a trip to Israel and then decide later on either few months or years later to visit Egypt...we wouldnt be allowed in? Does it matter what country you are a citizen of? Are Indian citizens allowed to do this? What about US citizens?

Why would they do that? So what do people do to avoid that? Make their Egypt/Jordan trip first and then head to Israel later? Wow thats really interesting, and I never knew before..

machadinha · Aug 9th, 2005, 00:59

Can this thread please be merged with http://www.indiamike.com/india/showt...4#post12 4904 somehow?

machadinha · Aug 9th, 2005, 01:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arun

I understand that passport control in Israel will, if asked, place the entry stamp on a separate piece of paper to avoid problems in the future.

Of course, this can be a problem if you then cross the border into Egypt of Jordan (which is possible nowadays), since the Egyptian or Jordanian entry stamp can indicate that you entered from Israel

As far as I know it works, and I've never heard of it being a problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by docgirl2005

Can someone explain this to me?

As you'll realize Israel has some serious issues with its neighbors and the Muslim world at large. I'm not passing judgment on it, just stating the facts. The Israelis at least are pragmatic enough about it to follow the above procedure.

Anders · Aug 9th, 2005, 01:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by docgirl2005

Can someone explain this to me? I dont get it..If we make a trip to Israel and then decide later on either few months or years later to visit Egypt...we wouldnt be allowed in? Does it matter what country you are a citizen of? Are Indian citizens allowed to do this? What about US citizens?

Why would they do that? So what do people do to avoid that? Make their Egypt/Jordan trip first and then head to Israel later? Wow thats really interesting, and I never knew before..

Egypt and Jordan does not have a problem vith stamps from Israel and they also allows citisens of Israel. Most of the other middle east countries and some muslim countries does not allow visitors that has previously been to Israel.

machadinha · Aug 9th, 2005, 01:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by machadinha

As far as I know it works, and I've never heard of it being a problem.

Whoops just reading up on it and apparently it can be.

Arun · Aug 9th, 2005, 01:23

Truth is, the story about:

Quote:

if you then cross the border into Egypt of Jordan (which is possible nowadays), since the Egyptian or Jordanian entry stamp can indicate that you entered from Israel

happened in Syria, which is not the most, well, reasonable country you can find.

Maybe other Muslim countries are not as exacting.

crvlvr · Aug 9th, 2005, 07:57

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.If we make a trip to Israel and then decide later on either few months or years later to visit Egypt...we wouldnt be allowed in? Does it matter what country you are a citizen of? Are Indian citizens allowed to do this? What about US citizens?

For the longest time, one could not get a visa to India if they had been to South africa. Basically this means that the country that denies the visa does not recognize the govt of the other country, has no diplomatic relationship with that govt or want to have any relationship with anyone who visits that country. Country are not required to gove visas just beecause one applies for it. Application can be rejected for any reason the consulate damn well pleases and no reasons need to be provided.

bijapuri · Aug 9th, 2005, 08:56

Ask a Pak consulate
everything else is hearsay

docgirl2005 · Aug 9th, 2005, 11:38

Thanks for the explanation guys....real fascinating yet kinda sad. If we look at the Earth from Space....it all looks blue from up there...no differences in sight.

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Digital Drifter bang a whore? Bangalore Dammit! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,878	Isn't that Trouble with a Capital T? :-) Sorry, no clue on that aspect of visa. But the US sec of State has been everywhere; India, Pak & Israel. Assuming you're an american, that means....

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chuckstar Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: united states Posts: 13	i have heard a lot of positive stuff about travel in pakistan....sure i am aware that there are travel warnings issued for pakistan.....but then again..some of these warnings could just be paranoia as well..... of course i would take any warning seriously, i know there are places that are dangerous, but i think those places are defined and off limits.....

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chuckstar Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: united states Posts: 13	i know that a lot of countries in the middle east and persian gulf do not accept israeli passports or passports with israeli stamps...i hears as well some airlines may not allow people to fly with them if they have israeli stamps in their passports as well....... i understand that israelis are barred from traveling to pakistan...but i have not found anything mentioning travelers with the stamp in their passports

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Arun zindabad! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Israel Posts: 170	I have heard that this is impossible. Same goes for US passports issued in Israel, of course (like mine). To those of you who have not yet been to Israel, and whose documents remain "untainted" - I understand that passport control in Israel will, if asked, place the entry stamp on a separate piece of paper to avoid problems in the future. Of course, this can be a problem if you then cross the border into Egypt of Jordan (which is possible nowadays), since the Egyptian or Jordanian entry stamp can indicate that you entered from Israel ... these people are just too determined!

Aug 9th, 2005, 00:58	#7
docgirl2005 Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: usa Posts: 443	Can someone explain this to me? I dont get it..If we make a trip to Israel and then decide later on either few months or years later to visit Egypt...we wouldnt be allowed in? Does it matter what country you are a citizen of? Are Indian citizens allowed to do this? What about US citizens? Why would they do that? So what do people do to avoid that? Make their Egypt/Jordan trip first and then head to Israel later? Wow thats really interesting, and I never knew before..

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