Nepal Motorcycle Ride

#1 Oct 18th, 2012, 12:19
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Hi

Some of us from Kerala, India are planning a motorcycle ride to Nepal in March 2013. The plan as of now is take our bikes in train to Patna, ride to Kathmandu and exit through U.P. and board train from Gorakhpur. The plan is something like this:

Day 1: Pack bike in Train and leave Ernakuilam by Cochin-Patna Express
Day 2: In Train
Day 3: Reach Patna by 2030 Hrs; Take bike from Railways and Halt at Patna
Day 4: Patna to Kathmandu – 337 kms ; Reaching Kathmandu in the afternoon/ evening and settling down at Thammel area (cheaper accommodation?)
Day 5: Kathmandu
Day 6: Kathmandu
Day 7: Kathmandu to Pokhara – 260 kms ; Reaching Pokhara in the afternoon, settling down at hotel, local sightseeing
Day 8: Pokhara
Day 9: Pokhara
Day 10: Pokhara to Butwal – 166 kms; halt at Butwal.. if possible will ride through to Gorakpur. Or use spare day in Pokhara..
Day 11: Butwal to Gorakpur – 170 kms; pack bike and book in train; halt at Gorakpur
Day 12: Board train to Kerala leaves at 0645 Hrs
Day 13: In Train
Day 14: Reach Ernakulam by 1330 Hrs.

Variations:-
1. Ride to China border and do some bungee jumping or some freaking activity from Kathmandu..

2. Go for a ride from Pokhara to the mountains and back OR Do a two-three day simple trekking in Nepal Himalayas from Pokhara

3. Get a buffer day and ride to Lumbini and Kushinagar on thw way to Gorakhpur.

My questions/doubts are

1. Is it necessary to take a motorcycle insurance to bikes for riding in Nepal. How it is to be taken ? Can it be taken before reaching Nepal or can it be taken at the boarder ?

2. Can you suggest any activity for couple of days in Kathmandu..?

3. Can you suggest a small 2-3 day trek based in Pokhara. Most sites mentions Poon Hill trek as 4-6 day affair.

4. Is it possible to ride from Pokhara to Lumbini, pay a visit to the shrine and move to Gorakhpur on the same day.?

5. Any other precautions /suggestions.

Thanks in advance


PS; If necessary, we can land in Gorakhpur, enter Nepal via Uttar Pradesh and ride along Pokhara to Kathmandu and exit via Bihar to Patna (In that case one more day can be allowed for trekking from Pokhara)..
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I would like to suggest some precautions:
* Patna to Kathmandu via Raxaul/Birgung requires a Day and Half excluding night halt or either start very early from Patna reach Raxaul at least 10am (tough though) and after finishing border formalities and reaching Kathmandu late evening is not possible from my point of view. So plan a night stay at Birgunj and leave early.
* For Indian vehicle one must keep himself ready for some unnecessary checking/stops in Nepal on road check post/ police posts and Please keep in mind that some of such posts may not be official .
* Requires permit from Nepal Bhansar (customs) which can be availed at Birgunj check post after paying fee.
* Please recheck current scenario in Nepal before entering as situation becomes abnormal there due to well knows issues.
* Verify your insurance provider for any cover in Nepal.
* If is best to have Nepali vehicle (if available on rent) in Nepal but in your plan it looks tough.
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Thank you very much for your prompt reply. Will report plan soon.
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As mentioned by Vishwa Nath, its very difficult to reach from Patna to Kathmandu the same day. Its not just about the distance, the road is a hilly one with winding roads. So, better if you set aside 1 and a half day for it at least.

As for your questions:

2. Can you suggest any activity for couple of days in Kathmandu..?
-> Try bungee/Canyon Swing at 'The Last Resort' (This is the one you mentioned about being closed to China Border)(http://www.thelastresort.com.np/), its totally worth it. It would be a 1 day trip from Kathmandu, you can make a booking from their office in Thamel in Kathmandu.
You'll find good places to eat in and around: Thamel, Kingsway, Naxal.


Places to visit in Kathmandu: Basantapur Durbar Square, Patan Durbar Square, Bhaktapur Durbar Square. Check out the sunrise from Nagarkot.

3. Can you suggest a small 2-3 day trek based in Pokhara. Most sites mentions Poon Hill trek as 4-6 day affair.
-> I would suggest going to Dhampus or Ghandruk trek, I personally prefer Ghandruk. It's on the Annapurna Circuit. It would be a two day trek. You would have to go to Naya Pul by road, a few hours ride, and from then on around 6 hours of trek(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghandruk).

Additionally, you can also try some adventure sports in Pokhara. Like Paragliding and ZipLine(http://www.highgroundnepal.com). Its a must-do thing.

4. Is it possible to ride from Pokhara to Lumbini, pay a visit to the shrine and move to Gorakhpur on the same day.?
-> I would suggest against it. Pokhara to Lumbini takes almost a whole day.


5. Any other precautions /suggestions.
-> Ride safe. The terrain is treacherous. Respect the local customs.

Source: I am a Nepali.
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Hi

Thanks a lot. I am thinking about reversing the route.. i.e., getting into Nepal via Butwal and getting out through Bihar. Will update plans soon.

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Originally Posted by coolgoose2 View Post Hi

Thanks a lot. I am thinking about reversing the route.. i.e., getting into Nepal via Butwal and getting out through Bihar. Will update plans soon.

Hi,
I would also like to suggest some more not so common but very interesting places where you can go by Road.
http://www.nepalvista.com/ can also be explored for more info.
* Up to Tibet border by Arniko Rajmarg upto Liping (little further from Tatopani) via Bahrebissi (hope i am correct with names) along with Bhote Kosi River.
* Dharan and nearby hilly areas by Mahendra Rajmarg upto Ithari.
* Hile from Dharan which is a very exotic place to go :http://www.lonelyplanet.com/nepal/th...rat-range/hile (bit old but useful link).
* Janakpur (optional).

You can enter in India via Biratnagar on NH57 with is part of EW Corridor . On NH 57 you can go upto Muzaffarpur then Patna on NH77 (Under construction right now).
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Originally Posted by coolgoose2 View Post Hi

Some of us from Kerala, India are planning a motorcycle ride to Nepal in March 2013. The plan as of now is take our bikes in train to Patna, ride to Kathmandu and exit through U.P. and board train from Gorakhpur. The plan is something like this:

Day 1: Pack bike in Train and leave Ernakuilam by Cochin-Patna Express
Day 2: In Train
Day 3: Reach Patna by 2030 Hrs; Take bike from Railways and Halt at Patna
Day 4: Patna to Kathmandu – 337 kms ; Reaching Kathmandu in the afternoon/ evening and settling down at Thammel area (cheaper accommodation?)

Same day KTM is not impossible. But difficult. Making permit at Raxaul border may take time. Instead a small border town in Sitamarhi dist - named sonbarsa-malangwa border would take much lesser time. Even the road from Motihari to Raxaul is often in very bad state.




Variations:-
1. Ride to China border and do some bungee jumping or some freaking activity from Kathmandu..
The bungee jump is done by last resort. They have an office in Thamel in Mandela street. Nepal-Tibet border is in Kodari. Road is not good. Border opens at 8AM. Nepali people can go upto one city inside Tibet. Stay for night at the Last resort.

2. Go for a ride from Pokhara to the mountains and back OR Do a two-three day simple trekking in Nepal Himalayas from Pokhara

3. Get a buffer day and ride to Lumbini and Kushinagar on thw way to Gorakhpur.

My questions/doubts are

1. Is it necessary to take a motorcycle insurance to bikes for riding in Nepal. How it is to be taken ? Can it be taken before reaching Nepal or can it be taken at the boarder ?
Indian Insurance paper works. But your insurance company may not cover
2. Can you suggest any activity for couple of days in Kathmandu..?
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3. Can you suggest a small 2-3 day trek based in Pokhara. Most sites mentions Poon Hill trek as 4-6 day affair.

4. Is it possible to ride from Pokhara to Lumbini, pay a visit to the shrine and move to Gorakhpur on the same day.?

5. Any other precautions /suggestions.
Follow traffic rules properly. Traffic police are quite strict there.
Take a shortcut to KTM via Daman from Hetuda


Thanks in advance


PS; If necessary, we can land in Gorakhpur, enter Nepal via Uttar Pradesh and ride along Pokhara to Kathmandu and exit via Bihar to Patna (In that case one more day can be allowed for trekking from Pokhara)..
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Originally Posted by Vishwa Nath View Post Hi,
I would also like to suggest some more not so common but very interesting places where you can go by Road.
http://www.nepalvista.com/ can also be explored for more info.
* Up to Tibet border by Arniko Rajmarg upto Liping (little further from Tatopani) via Bahrebissi (hope i am correct with names) along with Bhote Kosi River.
* Dharan and nearby hilly areas by Mahendra Rajmarg upto Ithari.
* Hile from Dharan which is a very exotic place to go
Near Dharan visit - Bhedetar
but from KTM, its far and then it would be better for you to exit from Biratnagar-jogbani border and catch a train from Kishanganj or Katihar
:http://www.lonelyplanet.com/nepal/th...rat-range/hile (bit old but useful link).
* Janakpur (optional).

You can enter in India via Biratnagar on NH57 with is part of EW Corridor . On NH 57 you can go upto Muzaffarpur then Patna on NH77 (Under construction right now).

Any questoions.. do ask me
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Instead of coming to Patna, come to Kishanganj by any of the trains http://erail.in?T=ERN::KNE:
Or go to Siliguri and enter Nepal via Naxalbari
From Kishanganj take road to Purnia. From Purnia turn right. reach forbesgunj, take right turn to Jogbani.
At jogbani get your papers made and go to Biratnagar. From Biratnagar, go to Dharan, at Dharan take a right to Bhedetar. Enjoy..
From Bhedetar come back to the Biratnagar-KTM highway and follow upto Hetuda
At hetuda go straight to KTM via Daman.
Decide the timing and places to night halt as per your convenience.
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Originally Posted by avalanche View Post -> Ride safe. The terrain is treacherous. Respect the local customs.
Source: I am a Nepali.
thanks a lot. I have done Leh in my Bullet in 2011. Will strictly abide by local laws and customs.


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thank you.. Will bother you again

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Hi

Okay, Reversed the plan... literally.

Now following Ernakulam - Gorakhpur (by train) - Bhairawa- Butwal - Pokhara - Kathmandu - Birganj - Patna (by bike) and to Ernakulam ( by train)

Day 1 - 10 March - Saturday - 1010 hrs - By 12512 Raptisagar Express - Parcel bikes and travel in Cochin Gorakhpur Raptisagar Express: The train stops for just 10 minutes at Ernakulam Station, so need to have somebody who can supervise loading of bikes on the train.

Day 2 - 11 March - Sunday - in Train

Day 3 - 12 March - Monday - Gorakhpur(1510 hrs) - take out bikes from railways, check-in to a hotel nearby

Day 4 - 13 March - Tuesday - 0600- Gorakhpur to Kushinagar and back - 100 kms(5 hours) where Budha attained Nirvana in 483 BC

Day 5 - 14 March - Tuesday - 1200 - Gorakhpur to Bhairawa - 140 kms/ 4 hours - Cross the border/complete formalities and visit Lumbini( where Budha was born in 563 BC); come back to Bhairawa

Day 6 - 15 March - Wednesday - 0600 - Bhairawa to Pokhara - 200 kms / 6 hours - check into a hotel and do a local scouting trip for the Trek

Day 7 - 16 March - Thursday - 1/3 Trek
Day 8 - 17 March - Friday - 2/3 Trek
Day 9 - 18 March - Saturday - 3/3 Trek

Day 10 - 19 March - Sunday -Pokhara To Kathmandu - 260 kms / 8 hrs - Reaching in the afternoon/ evening and settling down at Thammel area

Day 11 - 20 March - Monday - Kathmandu sightseeing

Day 12 - 21 March - Tuesday - Kathmandu to Patna - 337 kms / 8-10 hours - Try to reach Patna; if not possible, halt somewhere along the way

Day 13 - 22 March - Thursday - 1400 hrs - By 16310 Patna-Ernakulam Express - In case the plan offshoots schedule, this train leaves Patna on 23 March also. Hence need to book tickets on both days; Will cancel one in the last moment

Day 14 - 23 March - Friday -In Train

Day 15 - 14 March - Saturday - Reach Ernakulam by 1730 hrs. (If started on 23 Mar, will reach by 25 March)

Also avoided the trips from Kathmandu... due to completing the trip in 15 days and the train travel takes four days. Also the train commutes only on specific days.

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ramamoorthy

PS: this is the trek route in mind
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If you are unable to reach Patna by night, try staying at Muzaffarpur or Raxaul.
Do not try to venture beyond/on Raxaul - Motihari road at night. The road is bad plus not Very safe.
There are three roads from KTM to Hetuda --> Raxaul border
One is shortcut which the taxi owners take. Other is Via Daman. And the third is national highway. --- 3 roads mentioned are in increasing order of distance.
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If just a day at KTM, try Patan, Durbar Square and famous Hindu temple.
Thamel shows its full spirit on weekends.
Be cautious about parking places and traffic rules. In KTM police keep looking for Indian vehicles to levy fines.
I feel proud that I've never been fined in Nepal. Everyone around me who goes to Nepal has been fined at least once..
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at border town, while entering, take an extra day permit. Extension is very irritating and costly.
Get ,Bhansar' not --'Suvidha' pass.
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Yes there are illegal routes to get back to India. But if your vehicle gets impounded.. Cost of recovery will be more than the value of vehicle.
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Hi
Again tinkered with the plan.
Lack train tickets from Patna and my friend's insistence on visiting Varanasi () made us to tweak the plan once again. So the trek from Pokhara gone
Now it stands thus.

Day 1 05-03-2013 Pack bikes and board Mangala Exp to Jhansi from Ernakulam
Day 2 06-03-2013 In Train
Day 3 07-03-2013 Reach Jhansi at 7am; Leave for Allahabad ; 400 kms - 9 hour; halt at Allahabad
Day 4 08-03-2013 Allahabad to Varanasi; 126 kms; 3 hours; sight seeing and halt at Varanasi
Day 5 09-03-3013 Varanasi to Gorakhpur; 198 kms; 4 hours; visiting the Nirvana Temple at Kusinara (50 kms from Gorakhpur); halt at Gorakhpur
Day 6 10-03-2013 Gorakhpur to Bhairhawa; 100 kms 4 hours( including halt at border); visit Lumbini (50 kms) and stay at Bhairhava
Day 7 11-03-2013 Bhairhava to Pokhara; 300 kms 8 hours; halt at Pokhara
Day 8 12-03-2013 Halt at Pokhara
Day 9 13-03-2013 Pokhara to Kathmandu; 250 kms 6 hours
Day 10 14-03-2013 Halt at Kathmandu
Day 11 15-03-2013 Kathmandu to Kolhapur; 400 kms; halt at Kolhapur
Day 12 16-03-2013 Kolhapur to Rudrapur; 300 kms; Halt at Rudrapur
Day 13 17-03-2013 Rudrapur to New Delhi; 240 kms; Halt at New Delhi
Day 14 18-03-2013 Depart from New Delhi by train
Day 15 19-03-2013 In Train (make an alternate booking on 19-03-2013 too)
Day 16 20-03-2013 Reach Ernakulam

Booked train tickets to Jhansi (on 05th) and from New Delhi (on 18th and 19th March 2013). Don't want to miss this window of 'leave' from office.

Now two riders on two bikes Me in my 2009 RE STD-CI and my friend Ajith in his P-180.

Lot of questions still remain .. here are some
1. Is it possible to cover 400 kms between Jhansi and Allahabad in a day in bike..? How's the road condition..?
2. The distance from Kathmandu to Rudrapur (700 kms?) is approximate only..Is it possible to cover it in two days..?
3. Somewhat worried about unloading the bikes at Jhansi as the train halts there for 10 minutes. Will 'greasing' guard/porter work..?

But then if all the suspense gone, so too will be the fun..

thanks to everybody for suggestions/ advice

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Very difficult to unload a bike at an intermediate station..
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Originally Posted by NEILSATYAM View Post Very difficult to unload a bike at an intermediate station..
Yes, that's the risk we are going to take, but then in India everything works with a little 'greasing'.. let's see

Also as the train arrives at 7 am at Jhansi. so completing everything (getting the bike, fitting/tightening, mirrors, indicators, levers etc and doing personal chores will take an hour at least. So start of the ride will be closer to 9am, which make covering 400 kms to Allahabad difficult. So will try to halt somewhere in between.(Fatehpur in NH2 looks ideal) and start second day early.
https://maps.google.co.in/maps?saddr...via=1&t=m&z=10
There is no point in fine-tuning the plans on paper. Even the best laid plans go awry..
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we did it....Ajith and me rode through the Himalayan Nation in my Kerala registered CI bullet. The ride was beautiful with no mishaps.. not even a puncture in the ~ 1800 kms ride.. we and luggage weighed almost 220 kgs :O

It went something like this:

06th March: Packed bike and boarded Gorakhpur bound Raptisagar express from Ernakulam

07th March: In train

08th March: Reached Gorakhpur by 8pm; four hours late \m/

09th March: Visited Kushinara (100 kmns both ways) where Buddha declared that "Decay is inherent in all component things," just before his death in 563BC. proceeded to Sunouli border; crossed border, Obtained customs permits from Nepal customs {Bhansar paper.. [needs Registration Certificate of the bike; Original and a copy and Driving License; Original and a photocopy]} @ Nepali Rs. 130 per day(took it for 10 days; Visited Lumbini where Buddha was born in 483BC. and stayed there.
( Indian Rs : Nepali Rs :: 1 : 1.6) Take whatever amount you want to take in Rs 100 denomination or less. DO NOT TAKE 500 AND 1000 INDIAN RUPEE DENOMINATION NOTES INTO NEPAL.. YOUR MONEY WILL BE CONFISCATED AND YOU COULD BE PENALIZED/ ARRESTED.

10th March: Lumbini to Kathmandu ( 270 kms in 8 hours; cornering at 70 kmph and roads with absolutely nobody on road for long stretches makes it one of most wonderful stretches of roads.. roads turned bad at about 40 kms from Kathmandu..settled in a hotel in Thammel.. region..

11th March: sightseeing in Kathmandu.. visited Swanbhunath, Boudhnath, Pashupathinath and Patan. this city needs one month and we did it in one day...Also this place is for men in their 20s with girlfriend/ fiancee / wife(before she learns to say "I am tired/ I have headache")
(THERE WAS PETROL SHORTAGES IN KATHMANDU AND WE WERE HELPED BY Mr. RABI THAPA, GREAT MAN AND BULLETEER)

12th March: Kathmandu to Pokhara (260 kms in 6 hours)..after some 20 kms from Kathmandu road is excellent .... then just 40 km to Pokhara road became bumpy again.. settled in a hotel near the lake..

13th March: Sightseeing in Pokhara... This place also requires a leisurely stay of over a month with treks in Annapurna range.. we somehow obtained petrol in the evening..( policeman helped me jump the queue seeing I am a tourist and I jumped the queue unashamedly..)

14th March: Pokhara to Lamahi (290 kms in 8 hours).. hard ride.. and quite a few "Chakka Jam" on the way.. but they were lenient to us, tourists..

15th March: Lamahi to Khatima (345 km in 9 hours .... it was difficult to ride below 70). Saw crocodiles, turtles and big river fish in a irrigation dam ..The Border is at Mahendranagar::Banbasa. We arrived late, so we had to wade through an small wicked gate as the main gate closes by 2 pm everyday..

16th March: Khatima to Delhi..330 km in 7 hours .....after Rampur, it was never below 80..... hard but beautiful ride..settled into a hotel in Karolbagh.

17th March: Delhi.. rest.... packed the bikes and handed over to Indian railways.. I will never forget my experience and will never ever sent my bike from Delhi through Indian railways again ...

18th March: Boarded Kerala Express.. had to struggle quite a bit to push my bike into the parcel van of the train.. somehow did it..had to 'grease palms'.

19th March: In train... boring..

20th March: Reached Ernakulam.. got the bike released from parcel office and rode home

https://maps.google.co.in/maps?saddr...mra=ls&t=m&z=4

thanks to all and also the Nepali people we met on the way...It was a memorable ride..will post photos/ travelogue soon

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