India to Myanmar by road

#1 Oct 21st, 2011, 16:28
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Hello everybody!

I am an Indian national. I was looking for possibility of crossing Indian border into Myanmar by road/land. Many years back I remember to have visited a small village/town in the eastern part of the State of Manipur, which was supposed to be located at India Myanmar border. I recall the place is full shops with Burma-make goodies. I do not, however, recollect the name of the place, route used to reach this place etc. I was on official trip and a Manipur State Govt. official did accompany me. Subsequently, Indo-Myanmar relations have improved a lot and I wonder whether an Indian can visit Myanmar by road. The possibility seems bright from the following quote from Wikitravel:

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... land border crossing exists between India and Myanmar at Moreh/Tamu. While there have been confirmed reports of some travellers crossing into Myanmar from India, with their own transport as well as with permits arranged in advance ..

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I would like to open this thread to the vast population of IMers friends with a request to through some more light on this issue. It will be much appreciated if some reports are forthcoming from actual travelers on this route. The issues involved here are : Documents needed and the source from where those are to be obtained, route to be followed, mode of transport, cost involved. safety issues etc. etc.

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I would take Wikitravel (or any Wiki; the concept itself of course is that they're made by their users, so with all the errors that may ensue) with a firm pitcher of salt. Certainly Wikitravel I'm never too impressed with, I'd not use it as a resource on anything.

There's no way for me to be sure of course, but last I heard in these past years some minimal trade is allowed again for local tribals via one or two border posts there, to attend one of their traditional market towns in Myanmar. I think they're allowed in on certain days, then have to go back again. It's possible (domestic?) tourists may tag along, but wouldn't expect much more of it. (Come to think of it now, it's even possible I heard there's some larger-scale local commercial activity to and fro going on there now. Not sure, the memory could well be spurious.)

But, will gladly stand corrected, of course.
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... So digging around some more, it all remains rather murky. Lonely Planet, who of course can never be expected to be fully up-to-date on it either, though they do seem to try, currently has this to say on it, http://www.lonelyplanet.com/myanmar-...re-away#307006:

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BORDER CROSSINGS

You’re probably going to fly in. Borders tend to open and close, mostly the latter of late. The only border you can cross into Myanmar to continue a trip throughout the country is via Ruili (China). The other borders reach closed-off areas. No bus or train service connects Myanmar with another country, nor can you travel by car or motorcycle across the border – you must walk across. Have your visa before you get to the border.

In addition to the following there’s a border crossing with Morei (India) at Tamu, but it’s closed to foreigners.
[Follows a list of what's mostly not very feasible.] That one line about "closed to foreigners" would then seem possibly ambiguous, insofar as Indians might be held to be domestic or regional tourists (cf., as in the Bhutanese or I think Nepalese case), but wouldn't hold your hopes up on it. One might wonder of course what good is a border crossing that's closed to "foreigners," other than no border crossing at all.

The Myanmar Tourism Promotion Board, and lord knows how up-to-date or complete their info may be, meanwhile tells us that http://www.tourismmyanmar.org/intere...formation.html:

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Overland entry is permitted for Thai tourists with border pass and for third party tourists with visa at Tachileik, Three Pagoda Pass, Myawaddy and Kawthaung check points along Myanmar-Thai Border; and for Chinese tourists with border pass and for third party tourists with visa at Lweje, Nam Kham, Muse , Kyukoke, Kwanlong, Mont Lar along Myanmar-China Border.
Trying to check various Burmese missions abroad on it, and via its Ministry of Foreign Affairs, meanwhile proves to be rather a disaster, but, be my guest to search on. (Specifically the Delhi mission's site comes in the form of a forum such as this one, the goofy smilies signed "your embassy"'s admin in their "consular section" as well as the spam and all Way to represent one's country, guys So, er, no, I find nothing on it there, either.)

As said before, I wouldn't in the meantime expect too much of it.
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Have you discovered The Ghost Road by Mark Jenkins yet? It's an older article but a very good read & right up your alley!
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There is a website I gave; A good start would be to search that, and then check the About Us: page, and they look up the phone numbers.

No non-indian, or non-burmese passport holder has (documented) had success crossing the land border.

Ashish Da let us know what you find talking to those folks @ +91 33-XXXXXXXX number.
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There is a website I gave
Yes, I'd noticed as much; hadn't realized we were supposed to search it ourselves

However when you then note that

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No non-indian, or non-burmese passport holder
So how's about Indian passport holders? I guess that's what the question was all about.
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Originally Posted by nycank View Post There is a website I gave; A good start would be to search that, and then check the About Us: page, and they look up the phone numbers.
Ah ps so I thought I'd humor you and do that; they're Burmese based in India, eh. Yes, would seem like an obvious resource and good to contact, and a good tip at that (Sorry, a link just leading me to some non-immediately-obvious homepage and with no further description of why that would be handy I'll normally either not open or swiftly close again. Hence perhaps our misunderstanding. I guess it will work like that for more users.)
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Originally Posted by machadinha View Post Yes, I'd noticed as much; hadn't realized we were supposed to search it ourselves
Not you and I All useless information for us.
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Heheh.

So anyway a search there (and so thanks for the site) on "Tamu" leads to for instance this early 2010 article that might interest Asish, Indian tourists to visit Burma on land route. The Indo-Myanmar Fraternal Alliance (IMFA) mentioned there I find no website for (or it's been hijacked), but could be worth trying to get a hold of.

See also e.g. this late 2008 article there, India, Burma agree to expand border trade; or the late 2010 Indian border-state trade envoys to tour Burma. I'd expect it all to be rather precarious and in its infancy, and then certainly in terms of tourism possibilities.
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This doesnt answer your question but in the interest of adding more info to a thread about Myanmar land crossings:

I found out this month that there is a land crossing from Bangladesh to Myanmar at Teknaf at the southern most point of Bangladesh. I was rejected as it is not for foreignors but Bangladeshis are allowed to take the boat and spend 3 nights there for a 500 taka permit. It seemed quite popular and there is a daily boat.
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Smile Border Crossing at Moreh

You may cross over the India-Myanmar border for up to one week without a passport if you are a legal resident of India that resides in the Northern region of India or a resident of Myanmar. My friend crossed the border without any hassle last year in the fall of 2012. He is an American, but his parents were born in India. My guess is: if you look like the general population and try to blend in, there shouldn't be any problem to cross the border at Moreh. All others, especially Westerners, are restricted from crossing back and forth between Myanmar and India.
http://in.news.yahoo.com/india-myanm...101634315.html
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Originally Posted by PeakXV View Post Have you discovered The Ghost Road by Mark Jenkins yet? It's an older article but a very good read & right up your alley!
I read the article. Very touching to know the state of the Kanchis. Very Brave man Mark Jenkins indeed.

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