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Rajkumar, you may be right.
But I still find some Naxal links, including to the CHinese group (PLA I think) suspicious, ... and though CHina may have embraced the free market, its governance has not been democratic. Besides, it pays to create chaos in a neighbouring country. So I am wary.
Besides alleged support to the NE seperatist groups, of course, though many of their grievances are genuine. Often the political importance of a state has been inversely proportional to it's distance from Delhi, leaving some border states in a mess.
But I still find some Naxal links, including to the CHinese group (PLA I think) suspicious, ... and though CHina may have embraced the free market, its governance has not been democratic. Besides, it pays to create chaos in a neighbouring country. So I am wary.
Besides alleged support to the NE seperatist groups, of course, though many of their grievances are genuine. Often the political importance of a state has been inversely proportional to it's distance from Delhi, leaving some border states in a mess.
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But are these groups directly linked to China then? I'm asking, I don't know. And does it not also pay sometimes to create internal chaos and blame it on the usual suspects? Old ploy I'd say. (And no, this is not to reverse it and say that therefore any incident must have been staged -- that old conspirationist ploy.) I believe it's certainly an issue that comes into play in the wider context here though, with it often being quite obscure who staged what for which reason.
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In the 70s in India, Communist Party of India - Marxist(CPM) used to follow direct Chenese line of thought and probably took orders from them. On the other hand Communist Party of India (CPI) was a Russian ally to the max.
Rajkumar and Mach, a very quick google
from http://www.boloji.com/myword/mw074.htm
"Most insurgent groups, regardless of ideology or stated objectives, cooperate with each other and with the LTTE of Sri Lanka. Most are known to have received arms and expertise from Pakistan, sanctuary in Bangladesh and Myanmar. Authentic official sources have confirmed that in the mid-1990s China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) was aiding and directing Pakistan to provide arms and training to insurgent groups in India’s north-east. Has China’s use of Pakistan as its proxy for destabilizing India ended? "
Boloji may not be a quality site, I dont know. But Rajinder Puri writes for at least one national magazine that I know of. (Outlook)
I have also read articles in newspapers on these links a few months ago, sorry cant provide links. But a search by you folks will give you the benefit of choosing the sources you prefer to read from.
Generally the fact that there is Pakistani China cooperation against Indian interests has been known for a very long time. Low intensity conflicts indluded.
from http://www.boloji.com/myword/mw074.htm
"Most insurgent groups, regardless of ideology or stated objectives, cooperate with each other and with the LTTE of Sri Lanka. Most are known to have received arms and expertise from Pakistan, sanctuary in Bangladesh and Myanmar. Authentic official sources have confirmed that in the mid-1990s China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) was aiding and directing Pakistan to provide arms and training to insurgent groups in India’s north-east. Has China’s use of Pakistan as its proxy for destabilizing India ended? "
Boloji may not be a quality site, I dont know. But Rajinder Puri writes for at least one national magazine that I know of. (Outlook)
I have also read articles in newspapers on these links a few months ago, sorry cant provide links. But a search by you folks will give you the benefit of choosing the sources you prefer to read from.
Generally the fact that there is Pakistani China cooperation against Indian interests has been known for a very long time. Low intensity conflicts indluded.
Dzibead, as Rajkumar said earlier (I think), it is not easy, like in 1962.
But, lets be honest. It would be stupid of CHina not to have links with countries unfriendly to India. It is the links that seem to exist with terrorist groups that I find unpalatable.
But, lets be honest. It would be stupid of CHina not to have links with countries unfriendly to India. It is the links that seem to exist with terrorist groups that I find unpalatable.
oh yes, but it did not support terrorist policies.
A more apt comparison would be Indian links/ex links with the LTTE, IMHO.
A more apt comparison would be Indian links/ex links with the LTTE, IMHO.
Came across this, FYI: Team Tibet -- Bring Tibet to the Games 2008.
See also http://asiapacific.amnesty.org/apro/...a_ASA170192007 and similar in the meantime.
See also http://asiapacific.amnesty.org/apro/...a_ASA170192007 and similar in the meantime.
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Yes, these things often do, all around the world.Those who live by the sword, etc.
We can debate forever but the Chinese are unstoppable. With the train route to tibet and the torch going to the everest. These small pin pricks don't make much of a difference to them.
Anyways looks like there is a video of the protest
Anyways looks like there is a video of the protest
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I want to know what you ache for, and if you dare dream of meeting your heart's longing.
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No problemo Captain, but my point was something else.
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I'd have to say that only looking at that drove home the action's significance to me:Here we have the world's most famous mountain inundated by a gazillion mountaineers from far and wide a year, all of them carrying on regardless of the wider issues surrounding it, no matter what they may or may not personally think of it.
Seems to me that unfolding a lousy banner at what is after all an important moment for the powers that be there is the very least one could do to raise the tiniest bit of awareness. Not least among that mountaineering crowd itself, and provided the obvious coverage. People can't pretend to go there on a non-comittal basis no matter how you look at it.
And judging by international coverage, it has. If just a tiny bit.
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