Delhi- Hong Kong

jenneke · Nov 24th, 2006, 22:45

Hi people,

My friend and I want to travel from Delhi to Hong Kong. We want to stay in the North of India and cross the border at the most east point of India...to come in China. We have three months time.
Are there people who have make the same trip? it would be very nice if we get some tips and suggestions....

Thank you all, and all the best!
Greet Jenneke

SANJAY_DEL · Nov 24th, 2006, 22:56

Travel to the east Indian state of Sikkim.

The Nathu la pass has recently been opened for crossing into China.

From there you cud travel on the newly started Tibet railway that connects with mainland China.

Check with the Cinese embassy in Delhi beforehand.

steven_ber · Nov 26th, 2006, 02:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by SANJAY_DEL

Travel to the east Indian state of Sikkim.

The Nathu la pass has recently been opened for crossing into China.

From there you cud travel on the newly started Tibet railway that connects with mainland China.

Check with the Cinese embassy in Delhi beforehand.

The Nathu La pass isn't open to tourists.

The only 2 ways overland are via Pakistan or Nepal/Tibet, I know the Pakistan route is closed for about 6 months a year, and the Tibet route would be difficult (if not closed) for about 6 months a year.

machadinha · Nov 26th, 2006, 04:20

... Another 2 cents, I had heard about these recent developments along Chinese border (promising!) but was wondering about foreigners yes. Might take quite a while for things to get stabilized further. I thought I read something just recently about relations actually not going all that well.

A friend of mine did it via Pakistan but from her stories it's a frikking long ride to pass over Tibet (literally weeks if I recall, or perhaps she meant more than a week at least) in clanky buses and whatnot. She didn't have a very good time the way I remember (never mentioning illness and robbery and hospitalization that could arguably happen anywhere).

I'm not saying it's impossible, just it would take some thorough research. (Some of) the area of China to the south at least that you'd be headed for (I forget the name, SE Asia area roughly) has also long been tricky for foreigners, friends of mine have been kicked out there (other people do seem to make it. It's something people trying to make it there from Thailand'ish run into, if it's still like that.) It's another thing you might want to look into. Once you're in, Hongkong should be reachable alright.

Try also http://www.seat61.com/China.htm but it has no info on this particular route. There's stuff on Lhasa at http://www.seat61.com/Nepal.htm#Kath... sa%20by%20bus but it doesn't tell you what the journey after that would be like.

Ah look here it is http://www.seat61.com/China.htm#Lhasa%20&%20Tibet , Lhasa-Beijing would then be just 3 days. Note also: "A train Guangzhou (near Hong Kong) to Lhasa is due to start on 1 October 2006, and a train from Shanghai may be introduced later."

Since you're in Holland, try contacting Koning Aap or some such outfit (Djoser etc.) about it. You don't need to join up with their tours but they should be helpful (I hope). There's a great travel bookstore called Amber in Amsterdam (Da Costastraat if they haven't moved), very knowledgable people and the place functions as a semi-library. Pied a Terre (Singel) is another such place.

machadinha · Nov 26th, 2006, 06:17

nb Lonely Planet's Thorn Tree Forum North-East Asia Branch might be helpful. I can never really find my way there but see what you come up with.

jenneke · Nov 26th, 2006, 20:26

What a kind people here on this forum!! Thank you very much for all the information!!!

machadinha · Nov 27th, 2006, 23:46

Yr welcome. btw I noticed http://www.seat61.com/India.htm#International features the caption (page last updated Oct. '06):

Quote:

India to China:
It's just about possible to cross from India to China, if you are adventurous, but it's difficult and mountainous, there are no trains, you need a permit to be in that part of India, and some border crossings are closed to foreigners. If you wish to travel this way, do your research before attempting it..! For train service within China, see the China page.

For what it's worth. Going via Pakistan or Tibet you'd do well to follow up on Steve's comments about borders possibly being closed. Both the TT forum and this guy's site I think make it seem like it isn't any easier than it never was. There was always the business in Tibet about individual vs. group visa for instance & from reading around just now it doesn't seem to have improved.

Good luck! Let us know if you need any more.

machadinha · Dec 8th, 2006, 15:14

I'm not all that fond of people copying Google Earth pics, but anyway here's an idea of the terrain you're looking at: The not so open Nathu La crossing from Sikkim to Tibet. Kindly posted by member Vistet just now. Note the height numbers too

Nov 24th, 2006, 22:45	#1
jenneke Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: holland Posts: 2	Delhi- Hong Kong Hi people, My friend and I want to travel from Delhi to Hong Kong. We want to stay in the North of India and cross the border at the most east point of India...to come in China. We have three months time. Are there people who have make the same trip? it would be very nice if we get some tips and suggestions.... Thank you all, and all the best! Greet Jenneke Last edited by machadinha : Dec 8th, 2006 at 15:20. Reason: moved to crossing borders forum

Nov 24th, 2006, 22:56	#2
SANJAY_DEL Account Closed Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NEW DELHI, INDIA Posts: 1,351	Sikkim Travel to the east Indian state of Sikkim. The Nathu la pass has recently been opened for crossing into China. From there you cud travel on the newly started Tibet railway that connects with mainland China. Check with the Cinese embassy in Delhi beforehand.

Nov 26th, 2006, 04:20	#4
machadinha Not Your Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: yörp Posts: 10,557	... Another 2 cents, I had heard about these recent developments along Chinese border (promising!) but was wondering about foreigners yes. Might take quite a while for things to get stabilized further. I thought I read something just recently about relations actually not going all that well. A friend of mine did it via Pakistan but from her stories it's a frikking long ride to pass over Tibet (literally weeks if I recall, or perhaps she meant more than a week at least) in clanky buses and whatnot. She didn't have a very good time the way I remember (never mentioning illness and robbery and hospitalization that could arguably happen anywhere). I'm not saying it's impossible, just it would take some thorough research. (Some of) the area of China to the south at least that you'd be headed for (I forget the name, SE Asia area roughly) has also long been tricky for foreigners, friends of mine have been kicked out there (other people do seem to make it. It's something people trying to make it there from Thailand'ish run into, if it's still like that.) It's another thing you might want to look into. Once you're in, Hongkong should be reachable alright. Try also http://www.seat61.com/China.htm but it has no info on this particular route. There's stuff on Lhasa at http://www.seat61.com/Nepal.htm#Kath... sa%20by%20bus but it doesn't tell you what the journey after that would be like. Ah look here it is http://www.seat61.com/China.htm#Lhasa%20&%20Tibet , Lhasa-Beijing would then be just 3 days. Note also: "A train Guangzhou (near Hong Kong) to Lhasa is due to start on 1 October 2006, and a train from Shanghai may be introduced later." Since you're in Holland, try contacting Koning Aap or some such outfit (Djoser etc.) about it. You don't need to join up with their tours but they should be helpful (I hope). There's a great travel bookstore called Amber in Amsterdam (Da Costastraat if they haven't moved), very knowledgable people and the place functions as a semi-library. Pied a Terre (Singel) is another such place. __________________ Reading tips, all picked up at IndiaMike : INDAX's A Comprehensive Guide To India / Dinoj Surendran's Desi Humor / ITHVC on Culture Shock & Travel Health / JetLag Travel Guides For the Undiscerning Traveller / India Travel Links Last edited by machadinha : Nov 28th, 2006 at 11:23.

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Nov 26th, 2006, 06:17	#5
machadinha Not Your Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: yörp Posts: 10,557	nb Lonely Planet's Thorn Tree Forum North-East Asia Branch might be helpful. I can never really find my way there but see what you come up with.

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jenneke Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: holland Posts: 2	What a kind people here on this forum!! Thank you very much for all the information!!!

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machadinha Not Your Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: yörp Posts: 10,557	I'm not all that fond of people copying Google Earth pics, but anyway here's an idea of the terrain you're looking at: The not so open Nathu La crossing from Sikkim to Tibet. Kindly posted by member Vistet just now. Note the height numbers too

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