ABC Trek looking for trek partners

#1 Aug 10th, 2017, 23:32
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Hi ,

I am avijit and i am looking for trek partners for ABC trek in the first week of December. Please free to talk to me.

ABC trek itinerary would look like:

Day 1: Local Bus or Car/Jeep ride from Pokhara to Nayapul (Starting Point) and then trek to Ghandruk.
Day 2: Ghandruk to Chhomrong
Day 3: Chhomrong to Himalayan Hotel
Day 4: Himalayan Hotel to ABC
Day 5: ABC to Bamboo
Day 6: Bamboo to Landruk
Day 7: Landruk to Phedi and then Bus/Car/Jeep ride back to Pokhara
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#2 Aug 10th, 2017, 23:47
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avijit - All the best with your trek and finding the partners you are looking for.

We are doing this trek in the second half of December and aren't looking for a group trek. However, having researched this trek, I would like to suggest you reconsider your plan for day 4. Himalaya to ABC is changing the elevation from 2900 m to above 4130 m. It is not safe by an acceptable AMS guideline. You and your partners might be fine, but it is really not advisable...

Ideally, you'd want to make a night stop at Deurali (3200m) - though Chomrang to Deurali in one day is perhaps a haul. And, not spend the night at ABC in this express itinerary. It is might be better for you to spend the night at MBC (3600m) and go to ABC (4130m) in early morning (without much weight) and return back - may be much farther than what you are planning on on day 5 (may be to Sinwa)...
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Originally Posted by kmalik View Post avijit - All the best with your trek and finding the partners you are looking for.

We are doing this trek in the second half of December and aren't looking for a group trek. However, having researched this trek, I would like to suggest you reconsider your plan for day 4. Himalaya to ABC is changing the elevation from 2900 m to above 4130 m. It is not safe by an acceptable AMS guideline. You and your partners might be fine, but it is really not advisable...

Ideally, you'd want to make a night stop at Deurali (3200m) - though Chomrang to Deurali in one day is perhaps a haul. And, not spend the night at ABC in this express itinerary. It is might be better for you to spend the night at MBC (3600m) and go to ABC (4130m) in early morning (without much weight) and return back - may be much farther than what you are planning on on day 5 (may be to Sinwa)...
Actually neither I'm looking for a group trek but going alone to high altitude trek is gamble for me and I'm not confident so I was looking for people who could tag along with me.
About the altitude issue this what I googled and found.
Could you just reschedule my plan what you suggested.
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My new plan

Day 1: Local Bus or Car/Jeep ride from Pokhara to Nayapul (Starting Point) and then trek to Ghandruk.

Day 2: Ghandruk to Chhomrong

Day 3: Chhomrong to Himalayan Hotel/Deurali

Day 4: Deurali to MBC

Day 5: MBC to ABC / or Back to MBC

Day 6 : ABC/or MBC to Bamboo

Day 7 :Bamboo to Landruk

Day 8: Landruk to Phedi and then Bus/Car/Jeep ride back to Pokhara
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That's much better. Note - if you want, you can cover a lot more than days 5, 6. Returning from ABC, you are descending. While that can be hard on the knees, you can cover longer distances...

Just for ideas and any feedback - we are currently thinking of:
  • Day 1 - Take a private jeep to the point just below Landruk (3 hours), and then trek to Chomrang (ideal) but stop earlier if needed
  • Day 2 - Chomrang / close to Dovan / Himalaya
  • Day 3 - Himalaya / Dovan to Deurali (3200 m)
  • Day 4 - Deurali to MBC (3600 m)
  • Day 5 - ABC (4130 m)
  • Day 6 - ABC to Sinuwa
  • Day 7 - Sinuwa to Jindudanda (hot spring)
  • Day 8 - Pokhara
A bit packed but we are short on time. We are experienced hikers and expect to be in condition to hike this, but the wild card for us early on (when we are trying to push hard to reach Deurali before slowing down) is that we will be quite jet lagged at the start of our trip. [On the positive side, there is some acclimatization benefit from long flights...

In any case, if we fall behind early on - we'd skip the night at ABC and do MBC - ABC - MBC (something we do not wish to do) rather than risk unsafe ascent profile (in other words, nights at Deurali and MBC must before night at ABC). Alternately, we might skip the night at Jindudanda and make it to Pokhara from Sinuwa.
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can you inform me about the kimche route.many post says that the car is available till kimche .can you throw some light what route to follow if i take kimche
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Based on my research and not first hand knowledge, there is a road of some sort to very near Landruck as well as to Kimche. It could be referring to the same spot for all I know. There is at least one bus you can take from Pokhara to get there. There are, of course, private as well as possibly shared jeeps for the journey.

Don't know much more and will find out when we get there...
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I guess you have to break from nayapul then take a vehicle for kimche. There might not be any direct vehicle.
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One more thing you might want to do day hike to ABC and come down as far as possible

Day 5) sunrise hike to ABC, breakfast there, then down as far as comfortably possible
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Thanks. That's a possibility. Our thought so far is that ABC is the main target for the trek - and we plan to try to protect the night at ABC - and make up the time elsewhere. But, if we find that we are falling behind, we would consider it.
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what route to follow if i take kimche
Looking at the map - it seems that from Kinche, you'd go to Ghandruk -> Komarangdanda -> Chomrang. It looks longer on the map than going to a stop near Landruck... There is a route shown as Kimche -> New Bridge -> Jindudanda -> Chomrang.

But, this is not based on any experience. Sometimes, the route that looks short on the map isn't the best...

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I guess you have to break from nayapul then take a vehicle for kimche. There might not be any direct vehicle.
I am certain that there is a road to within half hour trekking distance of Landruk. It might not have a lot of public transportation support. We will probably end up hiring a private jeep to take us there directly.
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What's the rush? I strongly suggest you take at least two more days. FYI, it is 200 (yes, 200) km of stone steps ALL THE WAY and one of the biggest elevations changes of any trek in the area...it is just no fun going fast...

This IS based on experience
It might be the best of times or the worst of times...but it's the only time you've got!
#13 Aug 13th, 2017, 03:32
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Sab kuch milega,

I do not know if this is advice for potupal or us. We only have this much time to spend. If we had more time, we'd definitely have planned an extra day or two.

Your distances are off by a factor of 2.5 - the total length of the ABC trek is 80 km.
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Hi kmalik, the advice was for potupal...I did read that you had time restraints. 80 km as the crow files (!) Enjoy the trek
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I had a few "add-ons" but you are likely right, I'm over on the mileage!
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