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Originally Posted by rsk11584 View Post Similar experience i had in tambaram market which me. I asked one roadside vendor for the cost of apples, and her reply was people who buy apples, dont ask the cost, another culture shock.,.. or the rudeness of shopkeeper,
i believe such idiots exist everywhere, so one should just ignore & look for the next vendor...
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post There is a difference which makes the analogy imperfect. Europe does not have any language which is widely accepted as being a "link" language between the countries, not even informally. India does, albeit informal.

(For any newcomer to the conversation, Hindi and English are the "offical" languages of India's central govt; they have no greater status than any other language when it comes to the street, but many expect Hindi to be accepted as a "link" language. The last person that I heard supporting this case smartly reminded me that Hindi is not her mother tongue either )

In a recent newspaper report, I read of Tamil-Nadu school children being enthusiastic to learn Hindi. From someone else, I learn of children that want to, but are not able to, die to previous-govt machinations with text books and curricula
Hi Nick, that is not true. Kids in most schools have the option of choosing Hindi/Tamil/French etc as their second language (not sure about the Govt schools). I grew up in Chennai, moved there from Delhi. I studied Hindi throughout. I wasn't forced or denied to learn Hindi in any of the schools I studied. My father was a bank manager and we have moved around. I even studied in the small city like Cuddalore which also had option of Hindi.

I never had to learn Tamil (as third language) as a subject in schools except for until 5th standard which was customary. I don't believe that people cannot take Hindi and study if they want to in schools. Yeah if they are hoping for taking Tamil and Hindi together, it might not be possible as you can only have one second language in schools in Chennai.

I myself am a Tamilian who just studied Hindi in schools. Don't know to write Tamil even now. I learnt to read Tamil through my own interest. I obviously can speak the language.
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Giri. I plead guilty to second-hand and incomplete information.

The newspaper report I did read myself. The children that want to, and could not, learn Hindi is hearsay, although the 'hearsayer' does know a lot of children and takes an interest in their education. Perhaps something has changed since your schooldays? That is the impression I got, but I obviously can't be sure.
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Originally Posted by foodie25 View Post Hi everyone,
Nobody trusts you because they think you'll get wasted and bring friends home at night or you'll create some other kind of trouble. [/FONT]
Is this true? If so I would love to hang out lol. Moved here from Miami about 8 months ago and do miss the party scene from time to time.

Other than that I love Chennai; good food, people, job, etc...

Hope you find a crowd that works for you, hang in there.
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post There is a difference which makes the analogy imperfect. Europe does not have any language which is widely accepted as being a "link" language between the countries, not even informally. India does, albeit informal.
While manu north Indian language trace their roots to Sanskrit, Dravidian (loosely south Indian languages) do not.

Hindi came about quite recently (in linguistic timeline) and is a mixture of Sanskrit, Arabic, Iranian (Persian) and Turkish). There is very little common in common between Sanskrit and Dravidian languages like Tamil. I think more Sanskrit words have made it into European languages resulting in the theory that some European languages could be
derived from Sanskrit or be related to it (see Indo-European languages) However, these Indo-European language groups do not include dravidian languages which are considered to have completely separate lineage.

Ignoring the historical significance, when it comes to the script, most European languages share similar script. Even I can read signboard in most
European languages. But, the script used hindi and tamil are completely different -- and so is the case with other south indian (dravidian) languages. So one could argue that it may be easier for an english speaker (including Indians) to learn other European languages -- like German -- rather than an Indian one like Tamil.
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Yes, that is true. The diversity of scripts in India is even more amazing than the diversity of language. My wife can read in both Tamil and Malayalam, but Kanada and Telugu are complete mysteries to her (she can manage a few words of spoken Telugu). Chennai is right up in the North of Tamil Nadu. We could be in Andhra Pradesh in a few hours --- among people speaking and writing a completely different language to the one my wife grew up with.

My music teacher is Telugu, but grew up in Chennai. His wife grew up in Andhra. Telugu is the family tongue, in Chennai and in London. So, they both speak Telugu, Tamil and English... but she writes only in Telugu and he writes only in Tamil. The only written language they share is English.
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Originally Posted by crvlvr View Post Hindi came about quite recently (in linguistic timeline) and is a mixture of Sanskrit, Arabic, Iranian (Persian) and Turkish). There is very little common in common between Sanskrit and Dravidian languages like Tamil. I think more Sanskrit words have made it into European languages resulting in the theory that some European languages could be
derived from Sanskrit or be related to it (see Indo-European languages) However, these Indo-European language groups do not include dravidian languages which are considered to have completely separate lineage.
No serious linguist today, claim that the European languages are derived from Sanskrit. The theory (which is based on a very extensive and systematic research, and not only on just similarity in words), is that the Indo European languages all came from the same ultimate source, which is thousands of years older than the earliest written records that have been found.
This putative reconstructed language is called by linguistics "Proto Indo-European".
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This is an interesting topic!!
This is what a professor told me "Before all else there was this Vedic Language" - though I have no idea what it would have sounded like...
And this is found I found online (which I personally believe):
"Vedic Language and Dravidian Languages may have born in the same Timeline. You can never say that one preceeds the other.

Vedic Language gave birth to Sanskrit.
Dravidian Languages gave birth to Tamil, Telugu, Tulu, Kannada, Malayalam, Brahui and ......

So Both Tamil and Sanskrit are older.
Telugu is Dravidian Language. "
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/...NM6015P318M6B1
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This putative reconstructed language is called by linguistics "Proto Indo-European".
I wonder how the history of dravidian languages are explained by the latest linguist theories?
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Originally Posted by crvlvr View Post I wonder how the history of dravidian languages are explained by the latest linguist theories?
One linguist says Tamil is of Sumerian origin and even compares words which sound similar in both languages...
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Why Chennai is not fond of non-Tamilian single women - Probably they expect to look at attractive women /girls .. HEHE

jokes apart .. Let me ask why is that most of the North indian women /girls speak english with an " American accent or a bollywood hinglish Accent " ?

Just go to a pub and you will be surprised that most of the crowd is from Non -tamilian . You can expect to see quite a few north Indian faces ..

Another thing which most of the south indians agree with is even though the north indians are fairer they use some oil or perfume which kind of stinks .. ( I know it is not good to be open .. but for info sake )

Finally .. I am not a Tamilian ..
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Originally Posted by shreder View Post No serious linguist today, claim that the European languages are derived from Sanskrit. .
Lithuanian has the closest similarities to Sanskrit interestingly enough.
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Originally Posted by crvlvr View Post I wonder how the history of dravidian languages are explained by the latest linguist theories?
There is another aspect that people don't usually think about. It's a theory though so I dont own it.

People identify themselves based on their believes.. for example entire Indian culture and people make more sense only if you understand their tradition and religion. Religion/tradition is woven in the fabric of everyday life.
If you discard that evaluate an Indian person, he may seem very complicated and bizarre. We do face so many cross-cultural awkwardness all the time. We all know that because, that's probably one of the reasons that created this site - to understand that part of the people.

This applies to every society in the world. Each of them identify themselves by something which is close to them or unique - religion, ethnicity, culture, geography, ideology etc..

In the Tamil culture, this identity is greatly placed on the language. The daily life, history, culture, customs, tradition are very much closely knitted with the language (along with religion as rest of India, of course). The language itself has a Goddess form, She can even be found in few temples. That's probably why when you start with the 'language as just a communication medium', these folks will start to qualm. Its not coincidence that this is the only state that had chose to name itself after its language.

So if we understand that part, accept and get over that, rather than confront it. You may begin to see a whole new dimension of the people.

Just my thought...
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Originally Posted by vinatara View Post There is another aspect that people don't usually think about. It's a theory though so I dont own it.

People identify themselves based on their believes.. for example entire Indian culture and people make more sense only if you understand their tradition and religion. Religion/tradition is woven in the fabric of everyday life.
If you discard that evaluate an Indian person, he may seem very complicated and bizarre. We do face so many cross-cultural awkwardness all the time. We all know that because, that's probably one of the reasons that created this site - to understand that part of the people.

This applies to every society in the world. Each of them identify themselves by something which is close to them or unique - religion, ethnicity, culture, geography, ideology etc..

In the Tamil culture, this identity is greatly placed on the language. The daily life, history, culture, customs, tradition are very much closely knitted with the language (along with religion as rest of India, of course). The language itself has a Goddess form, She can even be found in few temples. That's probably why when you start with the 'language as just a communication medium', these folks will start to qualm. Its not coincidence that this is the only state that had chose to name itself after its language.

So if we understand that part, accept and get over that, rather than confront it. You may begin to see a whole new dimension of the people.

Just my thought...
Yes , you are so true . Tamilians always try to prove their identities even in other states and countries . That is why they get buttered everywhere . For example in Mumbai , Bangalore , Srilanka , Malasiya etc . But , the best thing with Tamil nadu is ..India has a lot of languages and the central govt . forcing Hindi is just not right . It is high time the other states took up this matter and create their own "identities"
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Originally Posted by stocklotgarment View Post Why Chennai is not fond of non-Tamilian single women - Probably they expect to look at attractive women /girls .. HEHE
Chennai is least bothered if your are single or committed.Idiots are every where.Don make a generalized statement based on one of your experience.It makes the topic biased.

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