going to thirunallar lord shani temple in karaikal from chennai

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I have 1 day(Monday) and the next day till 12pm to go to thirunallar lord shani temple in karaikal from Chennai and return. Is the trip possible and doable within that duration?

The link http://www.hindu-blog.com/2008/06/th...-karaikal.html is useful and it seems the temple is approximately 300km from Chennai. It also appears that there is less train and more bus connectivity to that place. Would the Koyembadu(sorry, if I spelled it wrong) bus stand in Chennai have direct buses to go to there. Are there more frequent buses to thirunallar or karaikal? The intent is to reach the temple as quickly as possible from Chennai. Can trains be considered as bus travel takes about 7 to 9 hours? I could not find any trains from Chennai central to Nagcore, Karaikal which are the nearby railway stations, but, perhaps they run only on certain days which I am not aware of.

Can I take a 7am bus from Chennai(if there is one, how do I find out its timings) to the temple or thirunallar or karaikal, reach the temple by 3pm, complete darshan by 8pm, take the 9pm bus and reach Chennai by 6am next day?

Is traveling at nights safe in bus(Tamil Nadu corporation buses or private buses) for a single male(27years)? I can speak Tamil, but cannot read/write Tamil.

Any other suggestions/advice on planning the trip would be appreciated.

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Hi vvv,

I will share few info which might help you.

If you want day time travel, best bet is to board "Velanganni / Nagaipattinam" bound bus from Koyambedu and get down at Karaikkal [ 7 to 7 1/2 hours journey and first bus starts at around 5 am and there are buses every 45 minutes to 60 minutes once]

Also,There is one direct A/C Volvo From Chennai koyambedu to Thirunallar [ Pondicherry Road Transport Corporation bus at 11 am which will again take close to 7 hours.

But Sadly, for all of the above options, there is No online booking option available.

And Lastly, there is one bus which Rathimeena Travels operates from Chennai Omni bus stand[ Adjacent to Koyambedu bus stand and Vegetable market] to Chidambaram at 6 am sharp [ONline booking possible]. This bus will take around 4 1/2 hours to reach Chidambaram from where you can catch another bus to Mayiladudurai[1 1/2 hours journey] and reach Thirunallar.

Train journey will be Very circuitous and time consuming and hence bus will be better.

Hope this helps.
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Hi Velu,

Thanks a lot for your response and advice.

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Originally Posted by pmvelu View Post Hi vvv,

I will share few info which might help you.

If you want day time travel, best bet is to board "Velanganni / Nagaipattinam" bound bus from Koyambedu and get down at Karaikkal [ 7 to 7 1/2 hours journey and first bus starts at around 5 am and there are buses every 45 minutes to 60 minutes once]
So, if I take the 7am bus from Koyambedu, reach Karaikkal and then Thirunallar by 4pm, you think I can get darshan(does it take long, is there a queue) and take the 6pm bus from there(Thirunallar) to return to Chennai. How is the return route to Chennai from Thirunallar? Are the buses as frequent(every 45mins or 60min) to Chennai or do I have to go to Karaikkal first to get a bus quickly for Chennai? Also, would it be more advisable to stay in Thirunallar till late evening or night 9pm and start from there so that I can reach Chennai in morning around 5-6am. I am new to both the places. Which is a safer option? Starting from Thirunallar at 6pm and reaching Chennai at 3am or starting from Thirunallar at 9pm and traveling in night to reach Chennai at 5-6am. Or, is there any other alternative? How safe is Chennai at 3am for a newcomer? I mean as there will not be buses/trains till 5-6am is it recommended I wait in the bus stand till 5-6am till the day starts?

And, how safe is traveling in bus at night for the routes I will be traveling?

Any suggestions/advice would be appreciated.

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Yes, it certainly helps. Thanks a lot.
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VVV,

I have a few questions for you ?

1. Are you traveling with your family?

2. Now which day are you chosing for this Dharshan? (Hope its is not on weekends as Saturday and Sundays the temple is going to be crowded)

3. Are you going to just have Dharshan or you are going to have a dip in Nala Theertham and then head for the Dharshan? (Why I am asking you this is that you need to carry one set of dress so that you have bath and leave the old clothes in the steps of the Nala Theertham)

There are buses from Chennai directly to karaikal and from there you get a lot of share autos and private cabs. Its exactly 7 kms from Karaikal to thirunallaru.

One last piece of advise: Dont take 50 Rs or 250 Rs ticket thinking that you can stand near the god and see the dharshan. Just go through free dharshan as it will be less crowded.
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Hi achillies,

Thanks for your advice. My responses are below.




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Originally Posted by achillies View Post 1. Are you traveling with your family?
No, I will be alone.

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Originally Posted by achillies View Post 2. Now which day are you chosing for this Dharshan? (Hope its is not on weekends as Saturday and Sundays the temple is going to be crowded)
Monday
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Originally Posted by achillies View Post 3. Are you going to just have Dharshan or you are going to have a dip in Nala Theertham and then head for the Dharshan? (Why I am asking you this is that you need to carry one set of dress so that you have bath and leave the old clothes in the steps of the Nala Theertham)
I think I will have a dip. Is it safe to leave the old clothes near the Theertham or is there some facility which keeps these things for a fee?
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Originally Posted by achillies View Post There are buses from Chennai directly to karaikal and from there you get a lot of share autos and private cabs. Its exactly 7 kms from Karaikal to thirunallaru.
Yes, thanks. Velu informed me about those(board "Velanganni / Nagaipattinam" bound bus from Koyambedu and get down at Karaikkal [ 7 to 7 1/2 hours journey and first bus starts at around 5 am and there are buses every 45 minutes to 60 minutes once]). How much do the share autos and private cabs charge from Karaikal to thirunallaru approximately?
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Originally Posted by achillies View Post One last piece of advise: Dont take 50 Rs or 250 Rs ticket thinking that you can stand near the god and see the dharshan. Just go through free dharshan as it will be less crowded.
That is surprising. Because in Tirupathi, I found getting a ticket of 50 I could get darshan quicker. But, I will do as you suggest. Do you expect it to be crowded even on Monday?

Also, you think I can get darshan(does it take long, is there a queue) and take the 6pm bus from there(Thirunallar) to return to Chennai. How is the return route to Chennai from Thirunallar? Are the buses as frequent(every 45mins or 60min) to Chennai or do I have to go to Karaikkal first to get a bus quickly for Chennai? Also, would it be more advisable to stay in Thirunallar till late evening or night 9pm and start from there so that I can reach Chennai in morning around 5-6am. I am new to both the places. Which is a safer option? Starting from Thirunallar at 6pm and reaching Chennai at 3am or starting from Thirunallar at 9pm and traveling in night to reach Chennai at 5-6am. Or, is there any other alternative? How safe is Chennai at 3am for a newcomer? I mean as there will not be buses/trains till 5-6am is it recommended I wait in the bus stand till 5-6am till the day starts?

And, how safe is traveling in bus at night for the routes I will be traveling?

Thanks
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Since you are traveling alone and that too on a monday, you can happily forget about the crowd.

Tirupathi system and thirunallar system are different. 50Rs and 250 Rs in thirunallar does not mean quicker dharshan. It means you go somewhat nearer to the god. But you may end up in a queue whereas free dharshan is very swift and peaceful.

Old clothes means, the one you will wear while bathing in the ghats and then leave them on the footsteps which will be collected by temple authorities. You will naturally wear a fresh set of clothes after your dip in the nala theertham.

They sell, Gingely oil, soap and shampoo everything around the theertham. You can buy everything. They will force you to buy clothes stating that its tradition to wear that clothes, have bath and leaving them in the foot steps. Dont fall for that as the clothes will again find its way to the shop.

Once you finish the dharshan and come out, people in the shops will tell you that you need to feed atleast 10 beggars as a tradition. Dont fall for that as you will buy food packets and the same food packet will be returned by the beggars to a middle agent who returns the same to the shops which sell them again to somone. (There was a article about this scam in a tamil weekly also)

Oh yes, I forgot. You can catch up the bus. You may have to come to karaikkal again to catch up the chennai bus. Buses from thirunallaru to chennai is very rare.
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Originally Posted by bsprasad View Post Since you are traveling alone and that too on a monday, you can happily forget about the crowd.

Tirupathi system and thirunallar system are different. 50Rs and 250 Rs in thirunallar does not mean quicker dharshan. It means you go somewhat nearer to the god. But you may end up in a queue whereas free dharshan is very swift and peaceful.
Thanks for the information.

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Originally Posted by bsprasad View Post Old clothes means, the one you will wear while bathing in the ghats and then leave them on the footsteps which will be collected by temple authorities. You will naturally wear a fresh set of clothes after your dip in the nala theertham.
In Shingnapur, men wear a dhoti while taking bath and have darshan wearing that wet dhoti. I thought it might be something like that.
So, I should bring a pair of old clothes from home which I am ready to abandon after bath? And, a fresh set to wear after bath?

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Originally Posted by bsprasad View Post They sell, Gingely oil, soap and shampoo everything around the theertham. You can buy everything. They will force you to buy clothes stating that its tradition to wear that clothes, have bath and leaving them in the foot steps. Dont fall for that as the clothes will again find its way to the shop.

Once you finish the dharshan and come out, people in the shops will tell you that you need to feed atleast 10 beggars as a tradition. Dont fall for that as you will buy food packets and the same food packet will be returned by the beggars to a middle agent who returns the same to the shops which sell them again to somone. (There was a article about this scam in a tamil weekly also)
It is sad such things take place. But, thanks to you, I am aware of it.
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Originally Posted by bsprasad View Post Oh yes, I forgot. You can catch up the bus. You may have to come to karaikkal again to catch up the chennai bus. Buses from thirunallaru to chennai is very rare.
Thanks again for the information. Now, I will know to go to Karaikkal after darshan. BTW, do you think if I reach Thirunallaru at 3pm, I can be done with darshan by 6pm and take the 7pm bus from Karaikkal to Chennai. And, is reaching Chennai safe at 3-4am in the morning by bus?

I appreciate your advice and time.
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VVV,

You can do the same thing here also. You can wear a dhoti and have bath. But the second part will not work here. You need to leave the dhoti at the footsteps and wear a fresh set of clothes and go for dharshan.

Yes, If you reach thirunallaru by 3 PM, you can easily finish your dharshan and catch up with 7 PM bus in karaikkal. Since it is a weekday, the crowd will be less.

Reaching chennai by 3-4 am is absolutely alright. Chennai is awake by that time. You will find full swing of vehicular traffic even at that time. So no problems.
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You can do the same thing here also. You can wear a dhoti and have bath. But the second part will not work here. You need to leave the dhoti at the footsteps and wear a fresh set of clothes and go for dharshan.

Yes, If you reach thirunallaru by 3 PM, you can easily finish your dharshan and catch up with 7 PM bus in karaikkal. Since it is a weekday, the crowd will be less.

Reaching chennai by 3-4 am is absolutely alright. Chennai is awake by that time. You will find full swing of vehicular traffic even at that time. So no problems.
bsprasad,

Thanks a lot for the information. I appreciate yours(and all who responded to my thread's) aid and time.
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Thanks a lot for the information. I appreciate yours(and all who responded to my thread's) aid and time.
I hope traveling at night in bus is also safe for the routes I will be taking?
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Yes, The routes are safe. You are not alone. You will have a full bus of passengers....sleepy, of course
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Thanks so much for your reply and time. I highly appreciate that.
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You are most welcome vvv.

Dont thank me. Instead write about your experience in this same forum.

Things get changed between the time when I visited and when you visit the temple. Rules keep Changing.

So when you write your experience, it really helps the future visitor to this forum.
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Originally Posted by bsprasad View Post You are most welcome vvv.

Dont thank me. Instead write about your experience in this same forum.

Things get changed between the time when I visited and when you visit the temple. Rules keep Changing.

So when you write your experience, it really helps the future visitor to this forum.
Yes, I will do that. I did that when I visited Tirupathi at http://www.indiamike.com/india/andhr...09-a-t87181/2/

My original plan was to do the ARUPADAI VEEDU TOUR (LORD MURUGA ABODE TOUR) https://www.ttdconline.com/tourdetails.aspx?tourid=14 and then visit Thirunallur alone.
But, they(TTDC booking staff) are telling if there are not enough people for the ARUPADAI VEEDU TOUR, it will get canceled which is what it seems at present. The other trips I can book are 3 DAYS NAVAGRAHA TOUR https://www.ttdconline.com/tourdetails.aspx?tourid=13 which includes Thirunallar. Both trips(lord murugan abode tour and 3 day navagraha tour) fall on weekends so I can go for only one of them.

So, if the ARUPADAI VEEDU TOUR (LORD MURUGA ABODE TOUR) https://www.ttdconline.com/tourdetails.aspx?tourid=14 is conducted I will post my adventures from Chennai to Thirunallaur. Else, i will post how things went in the 3 DAYS NAVAGRAHA TOUR https://www.ttdconline.com/tourdetails.aspx?tourid=13 tour which includes Thirunallaur

Thanks to you and all who responded.
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Did you finish the Dharshan or Sani Bhagwan?

How was your trip? Do keep us posted.

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