Top ten signs that Sonia Gandhi is the PM of India
Got a mail today.:)
Got a mail today asking me to check the links:
First read this
http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/may/17guest1.htm
Now go for to vote.
http://www.petitiononline.com/stop1305/petition.html
India INC is not sleeping.
First read this
http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/may/17guest1.htm
Now go for to vote.
http://www.petitiononline.com/stop1305/petition.html
India INC is not sleeping.
a good reading Radz..and YES i did sign the petition as well
Somebody please explain to me why this is not not pure and simple xenophobia.
"Emotional things" is a bunch of bullshit. It can justify ethnic cleansing, racism, genocide. I'm not suggesting this is comparable, just that this emotional stuff is not a good excuse. You must be able to verbalize and rationalize explicitly why you don't want Sonia. I know some of you already have, but this "emotional" stuff keeps coming back and it makes me uncomfortable. Just like you must be able to explain why you would deny your daughter or son marriage to the "unacceptable" person he/she has chosen.
"Emotional things" is a bunch of bullshit. It can justify ethnic cleansing, racism, genocide. I'm not suggesting this is comparable, just that this emotional stuff is not a good excuse. You must be able to verbalize and rationalize explicitly why you don't want Sonia. I know some of you already have, but this "emotional" stuff keeps coming back and it makes me uncomfortable. Just like you must be able to explain why you would deny your daughter or son marriage to the "unacceptable" person he/she has chosen.
Tomi,
It's greater than xenophobia IMO,
It's the Indian version of manifest destiny.
Sonia is not it. (BJP could have been it, Gandhi/ nehru were it, but they fitterred it away).It's larger than mere anti pakistan rhetoric. it's something definitive about the indian nation..and what it wants to be (according to its privilaged citizens).
I also believe that every geo political player is aware of this "implication" of sonia's election. (for instance, I wonder if all these howls of protest would have been so loud if rahul or priyanka gandhi were elected Prime minister...you an infect them with the manifest destiny style nationalism, they certainly succeeded with Rajiv Gandhi..).
It's not a good or bad thing to have this kind of nationalism, it's just another observation.
But this is a lesson India has to learn, the hard way, if nescesary. YOU CANNOT GO SOMEPLACE GEOPOLITICALLY WITHOUT TAKING YOUR WHOLE COUNTRY ALONG WITH YOU.The US learnt it by fighting a civil war, going through reconstruction, desegregating, ...etc. India is learning it in a slightly gentler way...so far.
(PS: the BSE index is up 219 on opening.)
It's greater than xenophobia IMO,
It's the Indian version of manifest destiny.
Sonia is not it. (BJP could have been it, Gandhi/ nehru were it, but they fitterred it away).It's larger than mere anti pakistan rhetoric. it's something definitive about the indian nation..and what it wants to be (according to its privilaged citizens).
I also believe that every geo political player is aware of this "implication" of sonia's election. (for instance, I wonder if all these howls of protest would have been so loud if rahul or priyanka gandhi were elected Prime minister...you an infect them with the manifest destiny style nationalism, they certainly succeeded with Rajiv Gandhi..).
It's not a good or bad thing to have this kind of nationalism, it's just another observation.
But this is a lesson India has to learn, the hard way, if nescesary. YOU CANNOT GO SOMEPLACE GEOPOLITICALLY WITHOUT TAKING YOUR WHOLE COUNTRY ALONG WITH YOU.The US learnt it by fighting a civil war, going through reconstruction, desegregating, ...etc. India is learning it in a slightly gentler way...so far.
(PS: the BSE index is up 219 on opening.)
I think its also Indian desire for a paternalistic government with the PM as a "father figure". People will look for solace in such a figure in times of crisis, note Vajpayee's statement's during the '99 Kargil war.
With Sonia there is no such hope, she cant even speak Hindi properly a great contrast to the great orator such as Vajpayee. Sonia has also kept herself very aloof from the media, hardly granting any interviews or press conferences, thus the fear of the unknown. Similar problem was also in the case of Deve Gowda, but atleast he was very much a man of the soil, its difficult for Indian's to identify with Sonia. If we could see her laughing playing Holi, or signing a "mira-bhajan" or two it would ease the pain
Or it maybe (as albaruni believes) its simply because we are neo-nazi fascists
With Sonia there is no such hope, she cant even speak Hindi properly a great contrast to the great orator such as Vajpayee. Sonia has also kept herself very aloof from the media, hardly granting any interviews or press conferences, thus the fear of the unknown. Similar problem was also in the case of Deve Gowda, but atleast he was very much a man of the soil, its difficult for Indian's to identify with Sonia. If we could see her laughing playing Holi, or signing a "mira-bhajan" or two it would ease the pain

Or it maybe (as albaruni believes) its simply because we are neo-nazi fascists
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This is a bit like comparing apples to oranges. Fujimori was not born in Japan--his parents (possibly grandparents?) immigrated to Peru and he was born and raised there...Peru was his home--the connection to Japan was just because of his ancestors. What IS amazing is that after he fled Peru, he was sort of "given" honorary citizenship BECAUSE of that blood connetion---something that no other person with Japanese blood and a foreign passport gets to have! You said "did he give the country to Japanese investors?" Well, I don't know...but that very close connection he developed with Japan may be one reason why Japan is so eager to have him stay while Peru is putting out warrants for his arrest.I don't know anything really, about these political matters....both in India and in Peru. But these discussions are very interesting.
Diane
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Why are you still posting? I thought you wanted to be withdrawn from this site?No I don't believe you ALL are neo nazi facists, though you certainly behave like you are sometimes.
In a world where there is a bush war in Iraq, there's osama bin laden trying to kill everyone in Afganistan, there's Isreal trying to make room for its jewish citizens by massacring its palestinian citizens, a great britain that wants to live its colonial fantasies on Indian financing, An Australia whose government is overtly anti Immigrant and racist (because the will of the majority is as such)...etc,
The Indians appear positively Gandhian. They're not.
Didn't fujimori end up taking political assylum in japan?
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A case against Sonia A case for Sonia
India has been ruled by foreigners for over a 1000 years, this time around, pls give us a break.
Calcutta, darjeeling, dhaka...and onward to assam...
why do you ask?
why do you ask?
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They seemed to be doing very well if I went by all those cocktail parties I attended in calcutta/ at the tea estates.It also had some of the poorest people in the country, but people kept explaining to me why there was a partition in bengal (three times or something) , and all those riots and then there was communism and then someone seemed to have noticed that the british left.....and....
"It also had some of the poorest people in the country"
Not necessarily, it does have the misforune of being surrounded by some of the poorest states Orissa, Assam and Bihar. But the point is that in the '60's Bengal had it all: easy access to coal (Bihar), educated populace, industrial intrastructure. Then people discovered communism ...
And that is we are scared, get it?
Not necessarily, it does have the misforune of being surrounded by some of the poorest states Orissa, Assam and Bihar. But the point is that in the '60's Bengal had it all: easy access to coal (Bihar), educated populace, industrial intrastructure. Then people discovered communism ...
And that is we are scared, get it?
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