Ravishankar and Osho - Godmen or conmen?

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#406 Mar 5th, 2017, 22:31
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Originally Posted by atala View Post to return briefly to the OT part here: according to Buteyko M. D., the texts I quoted, any kind of breathing through one's mouth is hyperventilation, even if done momentarily and in very subtle ways. It leads to that disbalance of Oxygen and CO2 which inhibits the assimilation of oxygen in the tissue cells. So athletes almost always hyperventilate, not only in that final part before recovery.

Any kind of voluntary deep breathing has a similar result, (esp also the pushing out of the exhalation). This is seen with asthmatics. Every specialist doctor is familiar with the fact, that when asthmatics suffer an attack, and they start to take deep breaths, the attack gets worse. If however, they breathe normally in a shallow way, their attacks normalise soon (after some additional exercises which Dr. Buteyko prescribes...)

Sorry for the digression. I don't know what AOL teaches exactly. If it is this stronger type of hyperventilation, then I understand why people like it. It used to be called Rebirthing in New Age circles, if it is the same thing (holotropic breathwork)
I was reading up on this interesting man, Wim Hof, who is from Netherlands. He says he can positively influence his autonomic nervous system by using his deep breathing technique.

Assuming that the claimed accomplishments and the videos are genuine and not fake, I must say he has acquired some extraordinary physical powers to withstand the fatal, freezing temperatures over and beyond physiological human endurance permits. Is it all only from his mere breathing technique as he asserts? Debatable. Just before taking up the physical challenge open mouth breathing is what he does or so it appears on the videos.I thought I should share this with you all.
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Originally Posted by surya2015 View Post I was reading up on this interesting man, Wim Hof, who is from Netherlands. He says he can positively influence his autonomic nervous system by using his deep breathing technique.
Assuming that the claimed accomplishments and the videos are genuine and not fake, ....................... temperatures over and beyond physiological human endurance permits. Is it all only from his mere breathing technique as he asserts? Debatable. Just before taking up the physical challenge open mouth breathing is what he does or so it appears on the videos.I thought I should share this with you all.
This is something that has been stated about the yogis and it is also said that they can control their oxygen requirement to a minimum and even remain underground for a long time. I do not know whether this is true or just hearsay. One thing I know, as all of us who follow many threads here may know, is that breath control in many ways help to control body functions/ physical activities.
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pollution/ Sri sri Ravi shankar

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...used-5m-damage.

So much for the great and good protecting India's heritage.

[Actually its called greed] and sod the rest of you, you will donate to my whims
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Standby for the fa.... Oh, sorry, not allowed to use that word.

Let them pay the bill. I expect they are still denying that there is one. After all, everybody loves SriSri, right?
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I think he has the ostrich approach.. What he doesn't want to see doesn't exist.

Paying the money shouldn't be an issue, it would be more of the ego that would come in between to accept and move on..
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After all, everybody loves SriSri, right?
No.

(I think there is an older thread on this Yamuna damage topic already?)
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I think there is an older thread ...
It will explain my references, including the redacted one.
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A spiritual guru was fined 50 million rupees and he was able to pay it (i assume). Boy have i chosen the wrong profession.
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(I think there is an older thread on this Yamuna damage topic already?)
This one;
Ravishankar and Osho - Godmen or conmen?
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Please look at this thread: http://www.indiamike.com/india/uttar...012-a-t159252/

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When we were in India in 1983, we met Mr. Anaya Angadi, who formed the "Asian Music Circle" in London, introducing Ravi Shankar to the west, and also to George Harrison of Beatles fame...

The "spiritual" side of things is so important in Indian life, it always seems to trump science and the laws of the land.

Pilgrims travel in their millions to receive blessings, and believe whole heartedly
in divine gods.

Increased pollution is a sad fact of the modern indian experience... Somehow the psyche seems to be that "As long as the polluting rubbish is away from my being, I am safe". Where things end up, on the road , on the train track, is fine, as long as it is not "my" floor.

Populism, giving people music and festivals, and basking in the reflected political or career goodwill, rather than facing what nature or the law demands is mad, but is a global phenomenon, as is denying the facts in the face of, err the FACTS !

As a non believer, I welcome any divine interventions to clean and restore these devine rivers and sites...

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The "spiritual" side of things is so important in Indian life, it always seems to trump science and the laws of the land.
There is a difference, even in India, between spiritual and commercial. And it is a difference that being Indian, apparently, does not necessarily assist in detecting. You know, like being Western and soap powder.

Contributions for SriSri from youtube? Did we do this one before....


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The below post (#103) by JuliaF (from Ireland) confirms the fact that members of Sri Ravishankar’s Art of Living organization are committed to help keep the environment clean and go to great lengths to accomplish their goals. It is safe to assume that some NGOs have an agenda of their own to defame the AOL. Her entire post is pasted below:


Ganapati Festival


Sep 15th, 2014, 22:57 JuliaF
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I completely agree with Vishva, Naveena. They are great photos.

I am just catching up with this thread now. I have some Ganapati pics to post when I have sorted out my photos, in a few days. I was in Satara on the 5th Sept which was, I think, the big day for immersions of families' idols. I went to the sangam of the Venna and Krishna rivers and it was a most enjoyable experience watching people pile out of cars, autos, jeeps and off motorbikes cradling their precious and beautifully decorated Ganapatis. A very happy mood and I was given so much prasad!

One thing was really impressive - there was a group of volunteers there from Art of Living Foundation. They would approach families as they arrived and would ask them, in a very gentle and respectful way, if they would mind donating their Ganapati to be immersed in another water body where it would not pollute either drinking water or farmland, rather than letting it go into the river. Most people agreed, so after the pujas had been done one of the volunteers would carry the Ganapati to a central collection point. The donated Ganapatis were all sitting there looking out at the river and waiting to be taken to their new home. It was a delightful sight, and hats off to the volunteers.
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Well, fancy that now
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My anecdote dates from 2014 and has no connection with the shocking damage to the Yamuna last year.
It doesn't "confirm" any "fact"!


But I'm glad that the Indiamike search engine is working
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