Ouch, Oprah!
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Right. A fine way to carry a conversation.
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I don't have any idea about various sorts of guns --- but I don't see anything wrong with the use of firearms in sport either. Archery could be lethal too, and I don't fancy a javelin in the chest.
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How sad. Another way in which another country has lost the fight against terrorism.Gun ownership is not that uncommon in places like Mumbai and Delhi. People have been shot for various things from road rage to refusing to supply a customer with another drink. There are the criminal gangs --- and there are the rich-kid thugs, to whom such things are playthings, and life may not be cheap, but hey, it doesn't make that much of a dent on daddy's bank account.
Anyway, I wouldn't look to the Washington Post (Or The Times of India) for authoritative reporting of Indian life. But then... Google in the hands of a desperate man! Probably should be made illegal
It's been touched on above btw, but US shooting fatalities are really staggering.
Now tell me again that guns don't kill people, but people do. There are numbers on how domestic fatalities compare to those of international conflicts that the US is or has been engaged in, and they are not at all favorable. They are rather crazy.
Anyways, why indeed should we even need to discuss this. It stands to reason that if you're not gonna have people wielding guns, there'll be fewer fatalities by them, right?
Now tell me again that guns don't kill people, but people do. There are numbers on how domestic fatalities compare to those of international conflicts that the US is or has been engaged in, and they are not at all favorable. They are rather crazy.
Anyways, why indeed should we even need to discuss this. It stands to reason that if you're not gonna have people wielding guns, there'll be fewer fatalities by them, right?
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Having made dozens of trips to the USA - believe it or not - the only times I've ever been threatened with a firearm have both been in India. One a fruit market & the other at a nightclub. We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time. ~
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really? wow. no, things are never black or white. The guy responsible for Virginia Tech massacre was Chinese on a student visa.Craziness comes in all colors.
During my first trip, after learning I'm American an Indian asked me if I owned a gun. I said, no, and I'm not fat either.
I remember this very well because this guy walked into a women's college in Montreal and declared that he hated feminists and started blasting away.
I had to personally deal with this because at that time I taught yoga in a jr. college down the road. I remember that students walked into my second class of the day dazed and in shock and told me how they did not know if their friends or relatives were dead or alive.
No yoga in class that day, I led them in a loving-kindness meditation for those injured, dead, and for the gunman.
duh.
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Actually the feminist hater was Marc Lépine who murdered 12 female engineering students, a clerk & a nursing student at thr École_Polytechnique_de_Montréa l in 1989.Kimveer Singh Gill was the Dawson College murderer and (according to the wiki link) hated most things in life ... but women were not singled out & in his final ranting notes.
Peak, you may have missed how Sama was actually treating victims there.
So now stop using e.g. some tragic events in Norway that you haven't the foggiest about to support your own worldview. Thank you.
So now stop using e.g. some tragic events in Norway that you haven't the foggiest about to support your own worldview. Thank you.
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Who do you vote if you want to bomb Iran next ? Soldiers of Fortune ? Or Satyam Shivam Sundaram
Who do you vote if you want to bomb Iran next ? Soldiers of Fortune ? Or Satyam Shivam Sundaram
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back to Oprah.....
"Yes, there’s a middle-class, and some version of “modernity,” for lack of a better word. But it’s also a country where many people are poor, and where practices that are uncivilized and backwards still exist, often protected as “tradition.”
I understand these words put peoples’ backs up because they were used by European nations to justify their imperial ambitions, but I honestly don’t know how else to categorize things like honor killings, caste lynching, or the televised sexual assault of a young girl.
(Before you write your angry responses – I’m NOT talking about eating with one’s hands here, I’ll admit I’m not sure why Oprah found that worthy of comment.)
So next time you’re about to get in a lather about how India has been depicted somewhere by someone, consider this: If, as a hyper-patriotic Indian, you’re not offended by the actual reality of India – whether that’s poverty, corruption, garbage in the streets, or a weak prime minister – then don’t waste your time being offended by the fact that foreigners aren’t blind to these things when they come here."
"Yes, there’s a middle-class, and some version of “modernity,” for lack of a better word. But it’s also a country where many people are poor, and where practices that are uncivilized and backwards still exist, often protected as “tradition.”
I understand these words put peoples’ backs up because they were used by European nations to justify their imperial ambitions, but I honestly don’t know how else to categorize things like honor killings, caste lynching, or the televised sexual assault of a young girl.
(Before you write your angry responses – I’m NOT talking about eating with one’s hands here, I’ll admit I’m not sure why Oprah found that worthy of comment.)
So next time you’re about to get in a lather about how India has been depicted somewhere by someone, consider this: If, as a hyper-patriotic Indian, you’re not offended by the actual reality of India – whether that’s poverty, corruption, garbage in the streets, or a weak prime minister – then don’t waste your time being offended by the fact that foreigners aren’t blind to these things when they come here."
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and a not scathing review of Oprah's time in India....
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