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Old Jun 19th, 2008, 19:16   #1
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Numerology - Indian style

When we were doing nothing, chilling in the Andamans, two and a half years ago, the discussion turned to Numerology. I have not been able to verify what I wrote back then in my notebook, namely that there are certain times of the day which are considered as "auspicious" and others which are thought to be "inauspicious". As well as the fact that in everyday life in India certain numbers are never uttered, for fear of bad luck. OK, if anyone is following this rambling utterance, let me give some examples.

When counting (rupies) : "one, Two, Three, Four, Five, Six, Six plus One, Eight!"

Instead of saying (Krishna forbid!) "500 rupies" you must say "Five hundred and one"...

Now for the tricky part, made trickier by a glass of wine at lunch (sorry, off topic) :

These are classified as UN- Auspicious Times of the Day :

Monday 7.30 to 9 a.m.
Tuesday 3 - 4.30 p.m.
Wednesday 12 - 1.30 p.m.
Thursday 1.30 - 3 p.m.
Friday 10.30 - 12.00 a.m.
Saturday 9 - 10.30 a.m.
Sunday 4.30 - 6.00 p.m.

And the way to remember these is
Mother Saw Father Wearing The Turban Suddenly

which is a mneumonic (memory aid) with Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday in the order to the difficult times of day of the week.

Is this clear? Not to me.

Anyone care to enlighten me?

P.S. Most auspicious number is ELEVEN...
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Old Jun 20th, 2008, 19:13   #2
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Question Raahu Kaalam ....

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These are classified as UN- Auspicious Times of the Day :

Monday 7.30 to 9 a.m.
Tuesday 3 - 4.30 p.m.
Wednesday 12 - 1.30 p.m.
Thursday 1.30 - 3 p.m.
Friday 10.30 - 12.00 a.m.
Saturday 9 - 10.30 a.m.
Sunday 4.30 - 6.00 p.m.

And the way to remember these is
Mother Saw Father Wearing The Turban Suddenly

which is a mneumonic (memory aid) with Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday in the order to the difficult times of day of the week.

Is this clear? Not to me.

Anyone care to enlighten me?

P.S. Most auspicious number is ELEVEN...
They are known as Raahu Kaalam.

Thanks for the mnemonic. I wanted something like it

Here is the explanation

Mother = Monday = 07:30 to 09:00
saw = Saturday = 09:00 to 10:30
Father = Friday = 10:30 to 12:00
wearing = Wednesday = 12:00 to 13:30
the = Thursday = 13:30 to 15:00
turban = Tuesday = 15:00 to 16:30
suddenly = Sunday = 16:30 to 18:00

Notice that the TIME column is in natural order NOW

Thanks for the mnemonic once again.

BTW, Raahu Kaalam is considered inauspicious for commencing travelling mostly. People unknowingly extend this to all other activities as well.
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Old Jun 20th, 2008, 19:33   #3
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i'm really curious/eager to know -
is there some scientific/logical explanation to them timings?

i dont cut my nails on tuesday/thursday/saturday
darn - it was a strict no-no at home -
and no matter how much i try and break out of it ... darn

but honestly,
would love to know the whyfores of raahu kaalam.


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[incidentally got hold of some kholapur thecha - arre wah wah kya baat!]
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Old Jun 20th, 2008, 22:07   #4
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avid:

i'm really curious/eager to know -
is there some scientific/logical explanation to them timings?

i dont cut my nails on tuesday/thursday/saturday
darn - it was a strict no-no at home -
and no matter how much i try and break out of it ... darn

but honestly,
would love to know the whyfores of raahu kaalam.


thanks
brishti
Most of these rules which we dont know "why" and "how" have come down indirectly from the vedas.

There is a time and a place for everything. For example, how many people eat lunch in the WC or while sitting on the "throne"?? There are happenings for which the time is perfect and there are happenings for when the timing could not have been worse.

Its a precise sense of timing all your actions and moves so that you are in prime healthy condition (mentally) all or most of the time.

I don't know the precise reason.... but I am guessing this on the basis of some stray disjointed readings...

The nails and hair are supposed to be alive and feeling. They store the divine saadhanaa generated energies of an individual. If you see Aura pics, fingertips(nails) and hair have more of flashing auras.

Many Rishis did not cut their hair and nails at all for this reason. For the same reason, there had to be a perfect timing to "shed your energies" so to speak.

I can't follow it 100 per cent of the time, but I don't get a haircut on Tuesday or Friday (devii maa shakti's days)

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[incidentally got hold of some kholapur thecha - arre wah wah kya baat!]
Which one is it? Pravins?

Monsoon is the best time to eat this. When its pouring cats and dogs... garmaa garam kandaa bhajiyaa straight from the frying pan with thecha ... yum (again, a case of perfect timing )

I got to buy some ten packets of Pravin's Thecha for my sis's nannad who has just come from California...

and also buying some two kilos mirchi kaa pieces in mustard paste ... version of Bengali heaven oooh ... oooh
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Old Jun 20th, 2008, 22:41   #5
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11 is most auspicious ? i was born on 11th - i don't know what impact it had on me !
regarding cutting nails and hair - i do the former when i feel uncomfortable with them and the latter when the saloon is not crowded (to stand in a queue for haircut is absolutely unacceptable). who cares what day it is. again, i don't know what impact it had on me !
i'm of the philosophy that every day and time is good as long as you feel good - that's it. period.
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Old Jun 22nd, 2008, 12:44   #6
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I don't believe in these superstitions either, but I find them amusing!

For instance, Friday the 13th is widely considered unlucky, except in Greece - here it is Tuesday the 13th the ill-starred date - and also many countries believe that cats have nine lives, whereas in Greece they only have seven!
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oh well...
i still cross my fingers and make a wish when i see a mail van -
and uncross them when i see an ambassador
if you uncross them fingers before that - wish will wash

life is tough



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avid: its 'neelam' thechaa will try and locate pravin's!
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Here is the explanation

Mother = Monday = 07:30 to 09:00
saw = Saturday = 09:00 to 10:30
Father = Friday = 10:30 to 12:00
wearing = Wednesday = 12:00 to 13:30
the = Thursday = 13:30 to 15:00
turban = Tuesday = 15:00 to 16:30
suddenly = Sunday = 16:30 to 18:00

Notice that the TIME column is in natural order NOW

Thanks for the mnemonic once again.

BTW, Raahu Kaalam is considered inauspicious for commencing travelling mostly. People unknowingly extend this to all other activities as well.
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Does this apply only in India, or outside the country too? If outside the country, should we be considering local time of day or Indian time? Do we take daylight saving into account? Maybe all the times should be Universal Time (GMT) (in which case we should be adding 6½ hours to the above), or even local solar time, which would be the natural basis?

Or maybe the whole thing is just baloney?
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also many countries believe that cats have nine lives, whereas in Greece they only have seven!
What will happen if a Greek cat is made to cross the international border ?
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Old Jun 23rd, 2008, 19:40   #11
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Does this apply only in India, or outside the country too? If outside the country, should we be considering local time of day or Indian time? Do we take daylight saving into account? Maybe all the times should be Universal Time (GMT) (in which case we should be adding 6½ hours to the above), or even local solar time, which would be the natural basis?
Obviously it has to be local time. The times above are approximate as they cover most of mainland India.

Sunrise time to sunset time divided by eight. These are half prahars.

Ignore the first one-eighth (1st half prahar).

Assign ...
the second to Monday
third to Saturday
fourth to Friday
and so on....

as per the above mnemonic

These are the raahu kaalams for any place on Earth.
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Obviously it has to be local time. The times above are approximate as they cover most of mainland India.

Sunrise time to sunset time divided by eight. These are half prahars.

Ignore the first one-eighth (1st half prahar).

Assign ...
the second to Monday
third to Saturday
fourth to Friday
and so on....

as per the above mnemonic

These are the raahu kaalams for any place on Earth.
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And you believe this...?
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Old Jun 23rd, 2008, 20:46   #13
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Are we in the 21st century AD or 21st century BC ?
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Old Jun 23rd, 2008, 22:18   #14
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Old Jun 23rd, 2008, 22:33   #15
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'faith' dont need no time line - and i aint talkin religion.
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