Is there a God? Does God exist?

Ikuru · Aug 24th, 2004, 07:13

And (if so) what makes you think so?

And are you sure? And why so sure?

SHIMLA · Aug 24th, 2004, 08:53

This reminds me of a joke:

3 Japanese scientists arrive in India for the first time, on an official visit, for 6 months.
On the long ride from the airport to their hotel, they get into a conversation with their chauffeur, who's an educated man. The discussions veer to the existence of and belief in God. The Japanese pooh pooh the chauffeur's belief in God and say that science has progressed so much, etc. etc., that there is a scientific explanation for everything and no need of God! The chauffeur promises them that after spending time in India, they too will start believing in God.

After 6 months, the same chauffeur is driving them back to the airport. This time the scientists are quiet and do not indulge in conversation. The chauffeur naturally asks them why. One of the scientists then answers ," Friend, you were right ! After spending 6 months in your country and observing the way it functions, we are convinced in the existence of God; for only God can run your country !! "

beach · Aug 24th, 2004, 12:40

Shimla, for the past 5 years we’ve been ruled by the parties representing god. But even god could not save them from being kicked out of power.

I’m 100% sure of the existence of ‘GOD’. But it is way beyond the comprehension of my brain and 5 senses to visualise. Imagine one mosquito trying to explain another mosquito what is internet

But one thing is sure. He is irresponsible and unjust. I know ‘God doesn’t play dice’. But still he is having some other fun. Otherwise how come people are suffering so much? And so much of chaos and confusion.

Well, if he is too busy with creating, destroying or reconstructing some other worlds, he should appoint someone else able to take care of earth. I’m angry with him/her for this. I really don’t know if god is a capitalist or communist.

radz · Aug 24th, 2004, 13:19

does God exist? I think yes,
I cant explain how

) but i like the quoto of God by Swami Vivekananda

.

"I see God,therefore He exists",
"Purity of heart will bring the vision of God".

SHIMLA · Aug 24th, 2004, 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach

:But even god could not save them from being kicked out of power.

God could not save them?? It was God who got them kicked out of power!!

Now its the current Govt.'s turn, lets see if God grants them even 5 years !!

"Bhagwan ke ghar der hain, andher nahin!"

volga_volga · Aug 24th, 2004, 14:48

I think not.

I have been going in circles in the past twenty years, from complete atheist (when i was Young Pioneer) to a believer (when it became fashionable after collapse of Communism) then back to atheism (the last time - through Buddhism).

I am not sure, but I am never 100% sure of anything. How can you be???

Why do I think so? The more I read on psychology the more I believe in powers of our minds. It's all there, you don't have to go far to explain unexplainable.

Lastly, God, it's like Love - you can't prove it exists, you either believe in it or not.

Ikuru · Aug 24th, 2004, 17:47

There was this man walking in the dessert all by himself... His Life had started of pretty good but after a while hes Journey got Heavy and confusing.

At the end of his life he went to God and asked him why He Had not been there to help him trough the heavy days of his journey. God said that He HAD been there and at Just that specific time.

"Really?" The man replyed.. "So where where you and how come I didnt see you?"... "Well I was right where you put me!" the God replyed.
"Oh Yeah? And where is that?" The man asked.
"Riding on your Back!" The God replyed.

Im not trying to dissrespect anyones belives with this. All Im saying is that we carry around this Culturall Load for ages and Still I dont see people reaching any happyness or enlightment... So maybe it is this SEARCH that is creating the missery we are in? The idea that we should be doing Something else than actually living THIS life as it is....

radz · Aug 24th, 2004, 18:15

Ikuru:
I heard so many incident(stories) ppl said so so and so seen god.
2 weeks back Auguest 7 i received mail from traveller friend (VTsite) from Holland.
Because all the stories ppl said someone saw god.

But this person said he saw God Krishana&talked to him,i dont feel like asking really?!!
I thought it may happen .
I just copy the paragraph here.

" I like to tell you some thing very interesting, I
went to India just for 4 days, I offerd a free ticket from Austrian air to
travel, so I thaught to visit the birth place of lord Krishna, the first person
who introduce God to mankind, even before Mozes, I was thinking since last 20
years to visit Mathura, I went there and I met him at the station of Delhi, I
talked to him and he instructed me to go to Jammu and to offer my regreatness to
a tempel on the hill, it was too hot for me to travel to Jammu at that time and
I had just one day left in India, but I'll do that in Oktober, I'm not a
religious type of man, a hard working realist magistrate in the court of the
Hague, but some time happend meraculiuses, and it happend to me.""

!!!

Ikuru · Aug 24th, 2004, 19:42

I will not say that god exist, do not exist course I really dont know...
WHat I am saying and will say is that people Might THINK and expirience what they like...

I belive that Anything can be expirienced etc without actually beeing a objective expirience or anything like it.

But if it works for someone than fine...

skell · Aug 25th, 2004, 00:01

I have serious doubts personally.

Robert DeNiro gave one of my favorite answers when asked, "If God exists, what would you say to him when you arrive in Heaven?"

His answer: "You've got some explaining to do!"

seventies'hippy · Aug 28th, 2004, 14:16

We are but an atom in the "God",
So we ARE God,
We are all part of the being, forever moving , forever changing,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Samsara · Sep 2nd, 2004, 16:43

I don't believe in a "GOD".

beach · Sep 15th, 2004, 00:03

To a man with an empty stomach,
food is God.
-- Gandhi

That is the simplest theory I could see about God

lobo · Sep 15th, 2004, 00:57

I really dont think so personally but no one can prove either way for sure.
I have met those who are 100% sure there is a god and had long debates but no matter what I said they wouldnt listen or even contemplate what I was saying (I was casting doubt).
A question I ask myself is has mans concept of there been a god/higher power etc bought people closer together or driven them apart?

So for me I say no.

Jorge Reverter · Sep 15th, 2004, 05:53

Personnally I don't believe in any kind of gods and don't care about it.

Human beings are only looking for answers to their questions and a solution for their needs. That's why indians have so many forms of God.

Many people make mistakes between the infinity and the indefinite or the unknown.

Aug 24th, 2004, 07:13	#1
Ikuru the only "end" is "you" Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: infront of the screen Posts: 1,913	does God exist? And (if so) what makes you think so? And are you sure? And why so sure? __________________ http://www.ikuru.se My art.

Aug 24th, 2004, 08:53	#2
SHIMLA Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Yangon, MYANMAR Posts: 4,126	This reminds me of a joke: 3 Japanese scientists arrive in India for the first time, on an official visit, for 6 months. On the long ride from the airport to their hotel, they get into a conversation with their chauffeur, who's an educated man. The discussions veer to the existence of and belief in God. The Japanese pooh pooh the chauffeur's belief in God and say that science has progressed so much, etc. etc., that there is a scientific explanation for everything and no need of God! The chauffeur promises them that after spending time in India, they too will start believing in God. After 6 months, the same chauffeur is driving them back to the airport. This time the scientists are quiet and do not indulge in conversation. The chauffeur naturally asks them why. One of the scientists then answers ," Friend, you were right ! After spending 6 months in your country and observing the way it functions, we are convinced in the existence of God; for only God can run your country !! " __________________ Whoever said money can't buy happiness didn't know where to shop !

Aug 24th, 2004, 13:19	#4
radz Maha Guru Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: India Posts: 750	does God exist? I think yes, I cant explain how ) but i like the quoto of God by Swami Vivekananda . "I see God,therefore He exists", "Purity of heart will bring the vision of God". __________________ My Photo gallery

Aug 24th, 2004, 17:47	#7
Ikuru the only "end" is "you" Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: infront of the screen Posts: 1,913	There was this man walking in the dessert all by himself... His Life had started of pretty good but after a while hes Journey got Heavy and confusing. At the end of his life he went to God and asked him why He Had not been there to help him trough the heavy days of his journey. God said that He HAD been there and at Just that specific time. "Really?" The man replyed.. "So where where you and how come I didnt see you?"... "Well I was right where you put me!" the God replyed. "Oh Yeah? And where is that?" The man asked. "Riding on your Back!" The God replyed. Im not trying to dissrespect anyones belives with this. All Im saying is that we carry around this Culturall Load for ages and Still I dont see people reaching any happyness or enlightment... So maybe it is this SEARCH that is creating the missery we are in? The idea that we should be doing Something else than actually living THIS life as it is.... Last edited by Ikuru : Aug 25th, 2004 at 06:24.

Aug 24th, 2004, 19:42	#9
Ikuru the only "end" is "you" Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: infront of the screen Posts: 1,913	I will not say that god exist, do not exist course I really dont know... WHat I am saying and will say is that people Might THINK and expirience what they like... I belive that Anything can be expirienced etc without actually beeing a objective expirience or anything like it. But if it works for someone than fine... Last edited by Ikuru : Aug 25th, 2004 at 17:29.

Aug 24th, 2004, 12:40	#3
beach Lost in translation Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: India ! Posts: 2,233	Shimla, for the past 5 years we’ve been ruled by the parties representing god. But even god could not save them from being kicked out of power. I’m 100% sure of the existence of ‘GOD’. But it is way beyond the comprehension of my brain and 5 senses to visualise. Imagine one mosquito trying to explain another mosquito what is internet But one thing is sure. He is irresponsible and unjust. I know ‘God doesn’t play dice’. But still he is having some other fun. Otherwise how come people are suffering so much? And so much of chaos and confusion. Well, if he is too busy with creating, destroying or reconstructing some other worlds, he should appoint someone else able to take care of earth. I’m angry with him/her for this. I really don’t know if god is a capitalist or communist.

Aug 24th, 2004, 14:48	#6
volga_volga Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,453	I think not. I have been going in circles in the past twenty years, from complete atheist (when i was Young Pioneer) to a believer (when it became fashionable after collapse of Communism) then back to atheism (the last time - through Buddhism). I am not sure, but I am never 100% sure of anything. How can you be??? Why do I think so? The more I read on psychology the more I believe in powers of our minds. It's all there, you don't have to go far to explain unexplainable. Lastly, God, it's like Love - you can't prove it exists, you either believe in it or not.

Aug 24th, 2004, 18:15	#8
radz Maha Guru Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: India Posts: 750	Ikuru: I heard so many incident(stories) ppl said so so and so seen god. 2 weeks back Auguest 7 i received mail from traveller friend (VTsite) from Holland. Because all the stories ppl said someone saw god. But this person said he saw God Krishana&talked to him,i dont feel like asking really?!! I thought it may happen . I just copy the paragraph here. " I like to tell you some thing very interesting, I went to India just for 4 days, I offerd a free ticket from Austrian air to travel, so I thaught to visit the birth place of lord Krishna, the first person who introduce God to mankind, even before Mozes, I was thinking since last 20 years to visit Mathura, I went there and I met him at the station of Delhi, I talked to him and he instructed me to go to Jammu and to offer my regreatness to a tempel on the hill, it was too hot for me to travel to Jammu at that time and I had just one day left in India, but I'll do that in Oktober, I'm not a religious type of man, a hard working realist magistrate in the court of the Hague, but some time happend meraculiuses, and it happend to me."" !!!

Aug 25th, 2004, 00:01	#10
skell Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The OC Posts: 993	I have serious doubts personally. Robert DeNiro gave one of my favorite answers when asked, "If God exists, what would you say to him when you arrive in Heaven?" His answer: "You've got some explaining to do!"

Aug 28th, 2004, 14:16	#11
seventies'hippy Maha Guru Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: UK Posts: 2,132	We are but an atom in the "God", So we ARE God, We are all part of the being, forever moving , forever changing,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Sep 2nd, 2004, 16:43	#12
Samsara Sentient Being Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 507	I don't believe in a "GOD".

Sep 15th, 2004, 00:03	#13
beach Lost in translation Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: India ! Posts: 2,233	To a man with an empty stomach, food is God. -- Gandhi That is the simplest theory I could see about God

Sep 15th, 2004, 00:57	#14
lobo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: london Posts: 431	I really dont think so personally but no one can prove either way for sure. I have met those who are 100% sure there is a god and had long debates but no matter what I said they wouldnt listen or even contemplate what I was saying (I was casting doubt). A question I ask myself is has mans concept of there been a god/higher power etc bought people closer together or driven them apart? So for me I say no.

Sep 15th, 2004, 05:53	#15
Jorge Reverter Maha Guru Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Murcia - Spain Posts: 1,465	Personnally I don't believe in any kind of gods and don't care about it. Human beings are only looking for answers to their questions and a solution for their needs. That's why indians have so many forms of God. Many people make mistakes between the infinity and the indefinite or the unknown.

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