Indian Diplomat Woman handcuffed in public at USA

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#1 Dec 13th, 2013, 20:41
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It seems Indian government diplomatic officer has been held in USA for misrepresenting some facts in VISA related case of an Indian babysitter.

Father of the culprit is crying racism as diplomat was arrested and handcuffed at public place.

Had it been India nobody would have dared to touch the corrupt official, with courts and legal provisions hell bent on protecting the guilty but her family is making hue and cry on some protocols to be followed in such diplomatic arrests. Has urged Indian government not to take this arrest a lighter matter and sue US authorties.

Does her father , is not aware 'Arvind Kejriwal' of New 'Aam Adami Party' is hell bent on punishing guilty and corrupt Neo Indian Aristocrats , holding lucrative government positions. Will he also cry racialism here in India if again her daughter is held for some other guilt.

I suppose USA has much much better record then India on matter of racism.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...3-31-hour.html

A slightly different presentation of the matter.

It's worth pointing out that "diplomatic immunity" to avoid arrest does not apply to consular staff, no matter how senior.
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"Uttam Khobragade, father of Devyani Khobragade, also claimed that it was a clear case of "conspiracy" to harass his daughter and damage the reputation of the Indian government. It is nothing but a racial bias. It is simple and clear racial bias to harass the Indians,"


too bad the old man doesn't have the same outrage over how his daughter lied to a governmental agency and how she treated the housekeeper/babysitter by paying her shit to clean her shit.

handcuffed in public? boo-hoo. do the perp walk, bee-atch.
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This is still breaking. It's reported that her maid is wanted by some court here and is missing.
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Originally Posted by Sama View Post too bad the old man doesn't have the same outrage over how his daughter lied to a governmental agency and how she treated the housekeeper/babysitter by paying her shit to clean her shit.

handcuffed in public? boo-hoo. do the perp walk, bee-atch.
Point, and a good one.

What I'd say is fine, if it was just an individual, simply just deserts, but where international relations are concerned, there should have been a bit more discretion. The diplomatic thing is about countries, not about people.
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post Point, and a good one.

What I'd say is fine, if it was just an individual, simply just deserts, but where international relations are concerned, there should have been a bit more discretion. The diplomatic thing is about countries, not about people.
Indian Government has bitten the bullet.
They have started protesting to diplomatic community in strong words.

Where as Maid is being shown as culprit in Indian government circles and her arrest is being assured moment she returns to India. Is this not act of racism, harassing a poor underprivileged girl that to for asking proper wages abroad.

It seems Diplomat lady will have to shell out compensation to maid and then victim would be deported, to be arrested by Indian government.

Hope she gets asylum against this arrest threat in India, and is employed to some fitting citizen of US.

I still wonder The diplomatic lady will keep her job in spite of putting governments of two countries in such odd situation and violating law of land in USA.
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Citymonk - do you have any links for this news ? Dainik Bhaskar reported today that this maid is not even in the U.S. but is missing in India.
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The really sad thing here is the Indian government taking the side of the diplomat, this should be an embarrassing episode, a very well paid representative of the Indian government deliberately lying, then underpaying someone for the hugely important job of looking after her kids, then falling back on her privileged position to form her 'defense', basically saying that because she represents the Indian government, she can do whatever she likes, what does that tell the world about India.

However, if we're really honest, how many indiamikers are suprised at anything they read about this case, about how the diplomat is trying to be seen as the victim, and the housekeeper being viewed as the problem, are we really surprised.

An upper caste Indian thinking they can do whatever they want with a lower caste Indian, and knowing that the housemaid should be grateful for any scraps that fall from the table, there's no embarrassment at being found out because the diplomat hasn't done anything wrong in her mind, but one thing's for sure, the housemaid will suffer for causing this embarrassment, I mean, how dare she, she should know her place.

The whole thing stinks, and the Indian government taking the diplomat's side should be hugely embarrassing.
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An upper caste Indian thinking they can do whatever they want with a lower caste Indian
May be class discrimination, may be economic discrimination, but, on the information available, can you be sure that caste has anything to do with it?

On the legal, USA-immigration/visa side of things, the case would appear to be that lies were told, so there is a case to answer and possibly a crime to be punished.

On the exploitation side of things, yes, according to the law there are stipulations about hours, minimum payment etc etc. Again, a case to be answered. But what was the young woman told she would be earning? What situation did she agree to? Rs.30,000 is still a good monthly income in India, especially if she is also housed, dressed and fed. Yes, but what about having a life? True, she isn't going to have much of a life, but neither are many workers, in India, who have left home for a period of time to raise money for their families. She may be having a more comfortable life than she would if she was working on a building site away from her home. She probably had a more comfortable life than the Chinese workers who assemble our electronic gadgets.

I am not saying it's all just fine, or fair. I bet the diplomat lady is getting paid according to American norms, and getting paid quite enough to give a decent salary to her employee. No, it's not right ---but, from the Indian point of view it is perhaps not as shock-horror sinful as might be thought.
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This is a very common occurance especially in the UAE.
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I see Racism here

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Originally Posted by steven_ber View Post The really sad thing here is the Indian government taking the side of the diplomat, this should be an embarrassing episode, a very well paid representative of the Indian government deliberately lying, then underpaying someone for the hugely important job of looking after her kids, then falling back on her privileged position to form her 'defense', basically saying that because she represents the Indian government, she can do whatever she likes, what does that tell the world about India.

However, if we're really honest, how many indiamikers are suprised at anything they read about this case, about how the diplomat is trying to be seen as the victim, and the housekeeper being viewed as the problem, are we really surprised.

An upper caste Indian thinking they can do whatever they want with a lower caste Indian, and knowing that the housemaid should be grateful for any scraps that fall from the table, there's no embarrassment at being found out because the diplomat hasn't done anything wrong in her mind, but one thing's for sure, the housemaid will suffer for causing this embarrassment, I mean, how dare she, she should know her place.

The whole thing stinks, and the Indian government taking the diplomat's side should be hugely embarrassing.
Absolute nonsense, When the trayvon martin killed by white[ yes white since you brought caste here ] does all the whites in america are responsible ?


And people started judging her here, have any idea what is her salary ?
her salary is 4500$ and minimum salary required by US is also 4500$ how can she pay her entire salary to a maid, and sorry for Indians being poor we cannot pay same amount as americans.

Arresting a women infront of children in broad day light on public street for diplomat yes its racism .
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[QUOTE=little_kid;1682797]Absolute nonsense, When the trayvon martin killed by white[ yes white since you brought caste here ] does all the whites in america are responsible ?


And people started judging her here, have any idea what is her salary ?
her salary is 4500$ and minimum salary required by US is also 4500$ how can she pay her entire salary to a maid, and sorry for Indians being poor we cannot pay same amount as americans.

Arresting a women infront of children in broad day light on public street for diplomat yes its racism .[/QUOTE]

This is 2013 almost 2014, women have equal rights, why shouldn't they get arrested infront of children in broad day light on public street
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Arresting a women infront of children in broad day light on public street for diplomat yes its racism .
Bollocks.

This is a diplomatic offence against the Indian state. Such things should be handled with discretions as an international courtesy.

It is not an offence against an individual, and, and it is actually more racist to say they did this because she's Indian.
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if you see, this is litle_kid's first post here. I am guessing they got really mad at one post, and created an account to vent.

welcome to india mike, little_kid. not sure if you are aware, all are not foreigners here. There are many indians, who wage relentless war against their pet causes, so no need to feel out of place.

If you know anything about america, you know the same thing (paying a pittance as pay, with no other benefits) can be accomplished 'legally', without any tarnishsing of character. Actually, you could be hailed as a super-hero, for providing jobs.

As to the racism part, you will see it, if you want to find it, in every interaction. To mute that, the person on the USA side who s pursuing this case is named preet bharara,who, perhaps is a hyphenated indian. So, your charge of individual racism might be neutralized by that claim alone, and as to systemic racism, well, i have no answer.

keep posting, little-kid, not just on this topic, but others too, Over time, you might realize something about yourself.
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innocent untill proven guilty

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Originally Posted by little_kid View Post Absolute nonsense, When the trayvon martin killed by white[ yes white since you brought caste here ] does all the whites in america are responsible ?


And people started judging her here, have any idea what is her salary ?
her salary is 4500$ and minimum salary required by US is also 4500$ how can she pay her entire salary to a maid, and sorry for Indians being poor we cannot pay same amount as americans.

Arresting a women infront of children in broad day light on public street for diplomat yes its racism .[/QUOTE]

This is 2013 almost 2014, women have equal rights, why shouldn't they get arrested infront of children in broad day light on public street
Because this is 2014 not 1800's. people ( irrespective of gender) expects some kind of decency. And the concept called innocent until proven guilty? yet least in India is not hypocrite, due to corruption we know what to expect. On the other hand look at US they arrest a diplomat coz she underpaid someone[ if there was visa fraud i agree its crime] but mighty FBI/CIA cannot find Bhopal gas blast culprit who is living in USA, but they can find osama in pakistan just before elections even though India officials publicly telling this since 2002?
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