India's scenic drug haven

Dr.Barai · Jan 10th, 2007, 09:43

The police has failed to solve the mystery shrouding the disappearance of foreign tourists in the interior areas of the Kulu district. The police has been receiving reports about 16 missing foreign tourists since 1992.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3241131.stm
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2000/200...himachal.htm#1

Bhaswaran · Jan 10th, 2007, 11:05

Probably, these people may be taking opium (ganja) and seeing there available in plenty, and decided to dump themselves over there. Thus, creating a headache for the world (for their dissappearence) without themselves bothering about it.

jyotirmoy · Jan 10th, 2007, 11:21

Bhai Bhaswaran,
Opium & Ganja are two different substances. What was once a discrete indulgence now it has tuned out to be a multi million buck illegal trade. As with any big buck illegal trade there are mafia like gangs involved. There are two reasons why people dis appear. Firstly they over stay their visas & become illegal residents & take up accomodation in difficult to reach areas & indulge in the trade. Secondly some get caught in tussle among the drug dealer factions & get killed. This is certainly a major problem now.

nadreg · Jan 10th, 2007, 11:27

So all these police "crackdowns" don't seem to be making even a dent in the trade, huh? If the locals are experimenting with different types, then the police must be in on it.

Bhaswaran · Jan 10th, 2007, 11:36

Jyotida is right.

Himachal Police and Narcotics Bureau have made several crackdowns but the effort seemed to have gone nowhere. SOme of the villages are on a very remote location and reaching there is very difficult and the villagers are clever enough to raise their "cash crop" in more remote areas.

jyotirmoy · Jan 10th, 2007, 11:37

Actually the local economy has become so dependent on narco money that it is almost impossible for the police to get local help. Small timers have all gone & now the whole thing is in the hands of organised syndicates. I was told that now the Nepali mafias have descended to Himachal.
I sincerely advise all travellers to stay away from these. Do not assume that smoking dope in India is safe. It is illegal. Take care & don't ruin your holiday & possibly career by getting involved.

capt_mahajan · Jan 10th, 2007, 11:45

Agree with Jyoti completely.

There is also a conception among some foreign tourists that Indian law can be always bought. Not true. And penalties can be pretty severe.

Even in cases where it can be bought, a tourist far away from home is a good target for the mafia and the cops alike.

So, either way, (s)he can't win.

jyotirmoy · Jan 10th, 2007, 11:49

Pay a visit to Mapusa jail in Goa & you will realise how correct Capt is.

nadreg · Jan 10th, 2007, 11:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyotirmoy

Take care & don't ruin your holiday & possibly career by getting involved.

Not to mention your life!!

Bhaswaran · Jan 10th, 2007, 12:02

WIll this every end? Any concrete steps ?

capt_mahajan · Jan 10th, 2007, 12:16

read my recommendations in the paedophile thread

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Nick-H · Jan 10th, 2007, 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by capt_mahajan

read my recommendations in the paedophile thread

... ... ...

Read out of context... ... ...

Hey! 16 people since 1992.

That's 14 years!

Hardly a big deal, surely?

Dr.Barai · Jan 10th, 2007, 22:28

here is a nice atricle .
http://www.roughguides.com/website/T...tLightID =307

cyberhippie · Jan 10th, 2007, 22:41

Pretty poor article IMHO!!

Nothing personal Dr but it reads like someone who just gave up smoking after 10 years. Full of boring stereotypes and misinformation!!

Digital Drifter · Jan 11th, 2007, 00:14

I had been to Kodaikanal recently (Nov 2006) and the local guide arranged for us, told us of an influx of German and Israeli tourists holing up high in the hills just to smoke joints.

This year he said the tourists of all kinds (domestic as well as foreign) are good, so any robbing/murder is unlikely he said.

Tamil Nadu, especially Kodaikanal, Theni, Cumbum (yes, there is place with that name) are big on Ganja growing. Tanjore, Rameshwaram, Madurai is big on trafficking it. My home state is a supporter of the LTTE even though it's a banned org in the country. One of the ways, money is raised for them is through drugs.

My point is, anyone trying to score drugs better be careful especially when you're involved/snared in troubled international intrigue. Wrong place and your body goes into a ravine or bio digester.

AND if you're known to the police as a drug user and you get knackered somewhere, you can rest assured that the investigation will be a whitewash and a character assasination of you to your relatives.

Jan 10th, 2007, 11:27	#4
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Jan 11th, 2007, 00:14	#15
Digital Drifter bang a whore? Bangalore Dammit! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,878	I had been to Kodaikanal recently (Nov 2006) and the local guide arranged for us, told us of an influx of German and Israeli tourists holing up high in the hills just to smoke joints. This year he said the tourists of all kinds (domestic as well as foreign) are good, so any robbing/murder is unlikely he said. Tamil Nadu, especially Kodaikanal, Theni, Cumbum (yes, there is place with that name) are big on Ganja growing. Tanjore, Rameshwaram, Madurai is big on trafficking it. My home state is a supporter of the LTTE even though it's a banned org in the country. One of the ways, money is raised for them is through drugs. My point is, anyone trying to score drugs better be careful especially when you're involved/snared in troubled international intrigue. Wrong place and your body goes into a ravine or bio digester. AND if you're known to the police as a drug user and you get knackered somewhere, you can rest assured that the investigation will be a whitewash and a character assasination of you to your relatives. __________________ Click here for the Indiamike train guide in PDF

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Jan 10th, 2007, 09:43	#1
Dr.Barai Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Lucknow Posts: 317	India's scenic drug haven The police has failed to solve the mystery shrouding the disappearance of foreign tourists in the interior areas of the Kulu district. The police has been receiving reports about 16 missing foreign tourists since 1992. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3241131.stm http://www.tribuneindia.com/2000/200...himachal.htm#1

Jan 10th, 2007, 11:05	#2
Bhaswaran Landscape Photographer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kolkata. INDIA bhaswaran@redifmail.com Posts: 992	Probably, these people may be taking opium (ganja) and seeing there available in plenty, and decided to dump themselves over there. Thus, creating a headache for the world (for their dissappearence) without themselves bothering about it.

Jan 10th, 2007, 11:21	#3
jyotirmoy Maha Guru Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 4,665	Bhai Bhaswaran, Opium & Ganja are two different substances. What was once a discrete indulgence now it has tuned out to be a multi million buck illegal trade. As with any big buck illegal trade there are mafia like gangs involved. There are two reasons why people dis appear. Firstly they over stay their visas & become illegal residents & take up accomodation in difficult to reach areas & indulge in the trade. Secondly some get caught in tussle among the drug dealer factions & get killed. This is certainly a major problem now.

Jan 10th, 2007, 11:36	#5
Bhaswaran Landscape Photographer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kolkata. INDIA bhaswaran@redifmail.com Posts: 992	Jyotida is right. Himachal Police and Narcotics Bureau have made several crackdowns but the effort seemed to have gone nowhere. SOme of the villages are on a very remote location and reaching there is very difficult and the villagers are clever enough to raise their "cash crop" in more remote areas.

Jan 10th, 2007, 11:37	#6
jyotirmoy Maha Guru Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 4,665	Actually the local economy has become so dependent on narco money that it is almost impossible for the police to get local help. Small timers have all gone & now the whole thing is in the hands of organised syndicates. I was told that now the Nepali mafias have descended to Himachal. I sincerely advise all travellers to stay away from these. Do not assume that smoking dope in India is safe. It is illegal. Take care & don't ruin your holiday & possibly career by getting involved.

Jan 10th, 2007, 11:45	#7
capt_mahajan (in charge of navel affairs) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 10,568	Agree with Jyoti completely. There is also a conception among some foreign tourists that Indian law can be always bought. Not true. And penalties can be pretty severe. Even in cases where it can be bought, a tourist far away from home is a good target for the mafia and the cops alike. So, either way, (s)he can't win.

Jan 10th, 2007, 11:49	#8
jyotirmoy Maha Guru Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 4,665	Pay a visit to Mapusa jail in Goa & you will realise how correct Capt is.

Jan 10th, 2007, 12:02	#10
Bhaswaran Landscape Photographer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kolkata. INDIA bhaswaran@redifmail.com Posts: 992	WIll this every end? Any concrete steps ?

Jan 10th, 2007, 12:16	#11
capt_mahajan (in charge of navel affairs) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 10,568	read my recommendations in the paedophile thread Printing a new business card, 'Consultant, Indian Society Revamp Specialist' .. One solution fits all

Jan 10th, 2007, 22:41	#14
cyberhippie Account Closed by User's Request Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 6,012	Pretty poor article IMHO!! Nothing personal Dr but it reads like someone who just gave up smoking after 10 years. Full of boring stereotypes and misinformation!!

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