How to deal with Arrogant Newbies

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How to deal with Arrogant Newbies

Have seen quite a few incidences where newbies tend to demand answers OR are not much polite in the way they post or respond.

I do not by any chance want to indicate that a person more posts deserves more respect coz he is some senior memeber or a maha guru or whatever. I think every one is equal may he be a post old or 10000 post old.

But how does one deal with someone who fails basic etiquettes ?

I am not saying I am the politest of all and have been blunt at times too

But then that is not all the time and have been able to fare well untill now.



How does one deal with such demanding newbies -

1. Ignore them? (maybe the only option)

Anything more interesting?
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Originally Posted by new_traveller View Post Have seen quite a few incidences where newbies tend to demand answers OR are not much polite in the way they post or respond.

I do not by any chance want to indicate that a person more posts deserves more respect coz he is some senior memeber or a maha guru or whatever. I think every one is equal may he be a post old or 10000 post old.

But how does one deal with someone who fails basic etiquettes ?

I am not saying I am the politest of all and have been blunt at times too

But then that is not all the time and have been able to fare well untill now.



How does one deal with such demanding newbies -

1. Ignore them? (maybe the only option)

Anything more interesting?
thanks for sharing my concern. i thought i was the only one who was irked by this...
some questions look more like an RTI application demanding all details than a 'request' for information.
i for one go to the extent of adding a nasty reply (thus venting out) and cancel after preview (thus preventing a useless debate).
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Originally Posted by new_traveller View Post 1. Ignore them? (maybe the only option)
I think that is the best option.
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Originally Posted by aarosh View Post I think that is the best option.
Agree but was hoping for some interesting , crazy , IM sense of humor type answer which might help us with a good laugh insted of sulking on someone who ruins your day after spending time in responding to him/her.
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Arrogant people think that they are always right, they are carving for attention so if you ignored him you will remind him of his old wound and this will let him down.
I also read the post (From which this question arise) and though of adding but finally decided against it.
But I do wanted to ask him, to share the details he got from "Another forum" :-D
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Ridicule is a good tool for dealing with arrogance. But ignoring is a sharper weapon.
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Originally Posted by aarosh View Post I think that is the best option.
I agree and special regarding "the urgent help needed".
But do not worry if you do not agree with myself
After an experience that you will not get any reply of the needed person after you tried to do your best, you will change your mind.
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Originally Posted by new_traveller View Post How does one deal with such demanding newbies -

1. Ignore them? (maybe the only option)

Anything more interesting?
That what I haave learnt to do. Otherwise it tends to become a slanging match.
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Arrogance is arrogance, whoever is the carrier of this disease should be left in quarantine and all will be fine.

Of course, sometimes its fun give spark to arrogance and see a person make a fool of himself or herself
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Originally Posted by theyyamdancer View Post Ridicule is a good tool for dealing with arrogance. But ignoring is a sharper weapon.
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No entertainment ? There is nothing like a few good laughs ! what all one can do with such scenarios
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Just a crazy thought - Why not have a special smily for that

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Originally Posted by Sapna Kapoor View Post I also read the post (From which this question arise) and though of adding but finally decided against it.
What post/thread started this?

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But how does one deal with someone who fails basic etiquettes ?
Don't really know if I should comment on this thread, in the past I've been rude, snappy and arrogant, and at other times I've been extremely frustrated by some (normally new) members, I've tried ridicule, humor (often mistaken for ridicule), politeness and long explanations, but on most occasions ignoring works best. (and putting the member on your ignore list)

We used to have a moderator tool, it would be used when a member became a real pain, and before we had the infraction system, I can't remember what it was called, but when we used it on a member, the member would log in and everything would seem normal, but every time they tried to reply, the tool would completely slow them down without them realising that anything was wrong, sort of like you get when you're on a painfully slow connection.
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If I am not wrong it was -
"Want an estimated price for my travel"
It was (I am writing "was" becoz MODS closed the thread) rude....
Guys was not asking for info, he was demanding as in he was paying. Well people dont write this way even if they are paying.
Annoying......
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OK, here we go.......

I've learnt a lot over the years, and one of the most interesting things was the reason why many Indians don't use the words 'Please' and 'Thank you', the reason being that everything in life is providing a service or being provided a service, example, a man buys something from a shopkeeper, no please or thank you is needed from either side, as each are useful to each other, the man needs the shop, the shopkeeper needs the customer.

It's a real interesting concept that can be used in most situations.

So, why do I mention this, I personally get frustrated more often with new Indian members than with new non Indian members, and if the member has his location as 'USA' (for example), I sometimes ask the member if they are a NRI.

This is because of the way some Indian members ask questions, and much more infuriating, reply without thanks or acknowledgement and simply ask another question, it gets me hopping mad, and it shouldn't.

Think again about my 'providing a service' sentence above, and then think about a 'rude' new member, is this an Indian member who thinks this is how questions should be asked?

I've been with Indian IM'ers travelling in a car, they need to find somewhere, so they say to a local "MG Road?", the local answers and we just drive on, no thanks, and none expected.

I know many of our (probably middle class) Indian members are the most polite on Indiamike, but could it be that their level of English is so much higher, or their experience of using this English is far higher?

Brings me to another point, see my next post.
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Be careful, this would open a can of worms, of people thinking it's OK to be rude and snide replying what they REGARD as arrogant posters..

Not something I would personally want to see here, if there's one thing I've learned in internet land it's very easy to misconstrue what people are saying due to a number of factors, English not their first language, so certain nuances are not contained in their question, complete newbies to internet land unsure how a forum actually works and the etiquette of said forum. Plain old forthright people, real life is full of them and I see nothing wrong with that but the human touch is missing on a forum. You don't see the body language or have eye contact. If you did, then things would likely look and more importantly FEEL different.
Then of course, you do have, as in every walk of life arrogant people. But it's hard to tell...

IM has rules on civility and congeniality. Any group "decision" on it being ok to ridicule would surely be outside that ethos and I promise would only lead to infighting and subsequent bannings..Unsightly to say the least.

As mature people we have a very apparent choice, easy and it does not upset the harmony of the forum. You quite simply turn the page and read on. We are not duty bound to answer anything..We can just read and reply to what suits us.

Setting precedents on mocking others is a pandoras box for the mod team. After all it's not only newbies who are sometimes arrogant...Older members are too at times, is it ok to ridicule and slap them down too.. Nope thought not...
The internet and in particular active forums come with a certian set of dynamics that no amount of admin control can negate. Like lots of things in life you sometimes just have to smile and move on.

Ownership issues like this are too often a spoiler on travel forums where people think longevity entitles them to privileges in how they interact with new posters. Something I've always hated! Forums are the sum of all it's members not just the chatty super posters (like me LOL)

Keep it mature and friendly says I...And I'm quite sure the site owner will agree.
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