Fund-less UK national stranded in India

drwho · Nov 13th, 2004, 20:17

Fund-less UK national stranded in India
Kullu (HP) November 13, 2004 2:18:26 PM IST

A British national, who was earlier convicted for travelling without valid travel documents, is staying put despite being released from prison due to a lack of funds.

Thomas Forbes Marshal was arrested by the Kullu police after it was discovered that he had no travelling documents.

"He was arrested under the Foreigner's Registration Act because he was found without travelling documents. He served his term and was released. Upon his release, the court ordered him to be deported back to United Kingdom. Now, we have had some trouble in deporting him back because the British embassy has refused to bear his air ticket expenses. Now, we are trying to find out a way of arranging an air ticket for him," said Anand Pratap Singh, the Suprintendent of Police, Kullu.

Thomas is staying in the Manali police station and says that he does not want to go back to his country because of some of the policies there, which he doesn't agree with.

"I am against some of the policies practiced by the government, so I prefer to stay here at the moment. I am hoping that the Indian government arranges for my visa, but rather than going to the West, at this moment I would rather stay here. I do not agree with the British policies, I would rather stay here. If I go back and speak of these policies, there is danger to my life", Marshal said. (ANI)

http://www.webindia123.com/news/show...66&cat=I ndia

shere · Nov 13th, 2004, 20:29

Can he not claim politcal asylum in India ?

iyou · Nov 14th, 2004, 01:53

The last part of our stranded tourist's quote suggests possible mental health problems to me. Many people criticize their government in the UK without fear for their lives, and I'm sure this young man will be treated no differently than anyone else, at least with regards to his free speech rights.

Rob_The_Pom · Nov 14th, 2004, 22:56

I'm not entirely sure why he is concerned for his safety for expressing his political views. Last time I checked the UK was a fully functioning democracy and not Nazi Germany or modern Zimbabwe.

UltraViolet · Nov 15th, 2004, 02:07

I think he is mad

pooch · Nov 15th, 2004, 02:41

Peddling Kulu's chief produce is any day a more tempting proposition than returning and having to work for the next Asia trip I suppose. Dodgy sorts are always fundless AND passportless.

Out of curiosity does anybody know anybody who's ever got assistance from a British mission overseas ?

freenote · Nov 15th, 2004, 03:18

Thirty years ago i was givern directions and a cup of tea!!!

superfemale · Nov 15th, 2004, 03:50

How can a UK citizen even consider applying to stay in a country under the disguise of some sort of refugee "clause/status". Look at India, it is a mess, half of the population not only living in poverty, but without any basic ammenities. Unless an extreme circumstance occured where he was mugged/attacked or injured, there is no reason for a westerner to be travelling around with no passport/identity or money. Something very fishy about this story. Maybe one too many Bhang shops. It really discredits genuine cases for political assylum. HEY... Call your family.

Baldy · Nov 15th, 2004, 04:02

Doesn't Blair have everyone walking around in blackshirts and jackboots?

monkgonemad · Nov 15th, 2004, 11:17

they should toss his ass back in jail and tell him when he comes up with the funds he is free to go. he has no visa.

goangoangone · Nov 15th, 2004, 14:16

He's a fruitcake!
No country would want him. Agree, lock him up.

Ozric · Nov 15th, 2004, 14:33

If he does have mental health problems, which is probably the case, why do some of you say insulting things about him?

Why should he be thrown in jail? Do you insult & laugh at disabled people when you see them?

Why should mental health problems be any different from any other disability? It's not his fault! I know of a couple of people who were perfectly nice & normal people then one day for no apparant reason (no they didn't take any drugs!) lost it and were acutely paranoid & delusional from then on. Some of the posts here are really heartlessly cold and ignorant

Nick-H · Nov 15th, 2004, 14:53

Well said, Ozric! This thread is beginning to sound a bit like a British tabloid newspaper!

Rob_The_Pom · Nov 15th, 2004, 15:01

Personally, I have my doubts as to whether Mr Marshal has any mental health condition. I would hope if there was evidence of a condition then the British High Commission would be more sympathetic and helpful.

goangoangone · Nov 15th, 2004, 15:10

I wasn't thinking he's mentally ill, more a case of angling for a free holiday.

Nov 13th, 2004, 20:17	#1
drwho Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 57	Fund-less UK national stranded in India Fund-less UK national stranded in India Kullu (HP) November 13, 2004 2:18:26 PM IST A British national, who was earlier convicted for travelling without valid travel documents, is staying put despite being released from prison due to a lack of funds. Thomas Forbes Marshal was arrested by the Kullu police after it was discovered that he had no travelling documents. "He was arrested under the Foreigner's Registration Act because he was found without travelling documents. He served his term and was released. Upon his release, the court ordered him to be deported back to United Kingdom. Now, we have had some trouble in deporting him back because the British embassy has refused to bear his air ticket expenses. Now, we are trying to find out a way of arranging an air ticket for him," said Anand Pratap Singh, the Suprintendent of Police, Kullu. Thomas is staying in the Manali police station and says that he does not want to go back to his country because of some of the policies there, which he doesn't agree with. "I am against some of the policies practiced by the government, so I prefer to stay here at the moment. I am hoping that the Indian government arranges for my visa, but rather than going to the West, at this moment I would rather stay here. I do not agree with the British policies, I would rather stay here. If I go back and speak of these policies, there is danger to my life", Marshal said. (ANI) http://www.webindia123.com/news/show...66&cat=I ndia

Nov 14th, 2004, 01:53	#3
iyou Maha Guru Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon USA Posts: 502	The last part of our stranded tourist's quote suggests possible mental health problems to me. Many people criticize their government in the UK without fear for their lives, and I'm sure this young man will be treated no differently than anyone else, at least with regards to his free speech rights. __________________ . . . --May a moody baby doom a yam. Last edited by iyou : Nov 14th, 2004 at 01:54. Reason: spelling correction

Nov 14th, 2004, 22:56	#4
Rob_The_Pom offcourse essentric Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 1,291	I'm not entirely sure why he is concerned for his safety for expressing his political views. Last time I checked the UK was a fully functioning democracy and not Nazi Germany or modern Zimbabwe. __________________ The solution to your troubles is at the bottom of a glass

Nov 15th, 2004, 03:50	#8
superfemale Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: canada Posts: 21	you have to be kidding How can a UK citizen even consider applying to stay in a country under the disguise of some sort of refugee "clause/status". Look at India, it is a mess, half of the population not only living in poverty, but without any basic ammenities. Unless an extreme circumstance occured where he was mugged/attacked or injured, there is no reason for a westerner to be travelling around with no passport/identity or money. Something very fishy about this story. Maybe one too many Bhang shops. It really discredits genuine cases for political assylum. HEY... Call your family.

Nov 15th, 2004, 11:17	#10
monkgonemad Aimless Drifter, Shiftless Idler, Useless Waster Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: SoEastAsia/AsiaSubCont Posts: 416	go to jail do not pass go do not collect $200 they should toss his ass back in jail and tell him when he comes up with the funds he is free to go. he has no visa.

Nov 13th, 2004, 20:29	#2
shere Maha Guru Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: England Posts: 1,105	Can he not claim politcal asylum in India ?

Nov 15th, 2004, 02:07	#5
UltraViolet Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 104	I think he is mad

Nov 15th, 2004, 02:41	#6
pooch Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Middle East <---->India Posts: 384	Peddling Kulu's chief produce is any day a more tempting proposition than returning and having to work for the next Asia trip I suppose. Dodgy sorts are always fundless AND passportless. Out of curiosity does anybody know anybody who's ever got assistance from a British mission overseas ?

Nov 15th, 2004, 03:18	#7
freenote senior member refused Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: cornwall UK Posts: 1,531	Thirty years ago i was givern directions and a cup of tea!!!

Nov 15th, 2004, 04:02	#9
Baldy gotta pee ... Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Brisbane Posts: 187	Doesn't Blair have everyone walking around in blackshirts and jackboots?

Nov 15th, 2004, 14:16	#11
goangoangone Monsoon Loon Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Goa Posts: 1,499	He's a fruitcake! No country would want him. Agree, lock him up. __________________ GoanGoan......here

Nov 15th, 2004, 14:33	#12
Ozric Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 23	If he does have mental health problems, which is probably the case, why do some of you say insulting things about him? Why should he be thrown in jail? Do you insult & laugh at disabled people when you see them? Why should mental health problems be any different from any other disability? It's not his fault! I know of a couple of people who were perfectly nice & normal people then one day for no apparant reason (no they didn't take any drugs!) lost it and were acutely paranoid & delusional from then on. Some of the posts here are really heartlessly cold and ignorant

Nov 15th, 2004, 14:53	#13
Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 26,829	Well said, Ozric! This thread is beginning to sound a bit like a British tabloid newspaper! __________________ . Just one member of the IndiaMike Mod Team

Nov 15th, 2004, 15:01	#14
Rob_The_Pom offcourse essentric Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 1,291	Personally, I have my doubts as to whether Mr Marshal has any mental health condition. I would hope if there was evidence of a condition then the British High Commission would be more sympathetic and helpful.

Nov 15th, 2004, 15:10	#15
goangoangone Monsoon Loon Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Goa Posts: 1,499	I wasn't thinking he's mentally ill, more a case of angling for a free holiday.

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