Floods South East Asia compared to Houston

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From the Independent U.K.:
More people are affected by flooding in South Asia than in Houston – but you won’t hear about that
Get the impression that the world map is North America and Europe.Not a word from Reuters for example Many years ago was in Vietnam (91 or 92?) when 2500 m"m of rain came down in 3 days, hundreds died and a good part of the country under water. Got home not a word about it.
So sad to to hear the amount of devastation and loss of life in South Asia and so little notice and help they will be getting to get the life back to a semi normal life and how long it will take.
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Salom, It is South Asia; South East Asia would make it a whole larger region.

As to Hurricane Harvey, it is a gringocentric world. You expect balance, then go to news organisations that have actual reporters on their payroll who cover South Asia out of New Delhi/Mumbai etc.
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So far as my mother country is concerned, there has always been reporting like...
Three Britons Escape Disaster
Two hundred people dead...
I suppose there always will be.

To be fair, though, the Chennai floods of 2015 did get UK-news coverage, even though areas of that country were flooded out too. It probably got more news coverage than I am seeing in the newspapers here about the Further-East flooding.

Local and latest gets the column inches. I'm not even sure what is happening now in the North-Eastern Indian subcontinent, where there have been a thousand deaths, because Mumbai now has the spotlight.
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BBC Trending

Houston floods, but what about all the other disasters?


By Georgina Rannard BBC UGC and Social News
30 August 2017
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When is a disaster not a disaster? When it takes place in certain parts of the world, according to some people on social media.

As Storm Harvey threatens Louisiana and leaves heavy floods across parts of Texas, thousands of people affected by disasters in Asia and Africa have also been tweeting and sharing pictures of their experiences.

But news outlets have focussed headlines and bulletins largely on the disaster in the US, prompting accusations from social media users of giving disproportionate attention to stories about wealthier countries.
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But why would anyone watch real news when fake news is more fun:

Sharks, underwater airplanes, bragging looters: The fake news about Harvey

By BBC Trending What's popular and why
29 August 2017
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Dunno, but I have always given a Tropical Revolving Storm much more attention than relatively simple flooding. Even earlier, but certainly after the one, not all that far from Houston (2500 miles?), that should have killed us and very damn nearly did.

A TRS is a different ball game. It is correct to give Texas more media attention.
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Originally Posted by nycank View Post Salom, It is South Asia; South East Asia would make it a whole larger region.

As to Hurricane Harvey, it is a gringocentric world. You expect balance, then go to news organisations that have actual reporters on their payroll who cover South Asia out of New Delhi/Mumbai etc.
I saw news of Mumbai, and Bangladesh floods on the evening TV news shows in the US, CNN, Heard about it on National public radio, and read it in the NYC times and wash post. The analysis did try to understand the difference in fatalities, difference in relief and rescue capabilities , among other things.
In this case another story from India drew attention at same time : guru ram rahim Singh and the violence that followed.

Btw, in recent years pretty much every train accident in India with fatalities, gets some reporting in the media.
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Why should there be any comparison at all? When I'm in India I don't expect anything major that happens in America to be broadcast in the Indian news or written about in Indian papers. Why would I?

Frankly, when Hurricane Katrina happened in 2005 during my first trip to India, I didn't hear or read anything about it when I was in Chennai. I had no idea it happened. I learned about it in emails from friends.

Comparing news coverage of both is like two cancer patients comparing their treatments: "mine is worse than yours." "oh yeah, well, mine is...." whatever. And where I am I've known about the India floods together with news about Houston. I guess that depends on how and where I get my news compared to someone else.

Comparing is engaging in Whataboutism. You can google that.
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Originally Posted by Sama View Post Why should there be any comparison at all? When I'm in India I don't expect anything major that happens in America to be broadcast in the Indian news or in Indian papers at all. Why would I?

Frankly, when Hurricane Katrina happened in 2005 during my first trip to India, I didn't hear or read anything about it when I was in Chennai. I had no idea it happened. I learned about it in emails from friends.

Comparing news coverage of both is like two cancer patients comparing their treatments: "mine is worse than yours." "oh yeah, well, mine is...." whatever. And where I am I've also read about the India floods together with news about Houston. But I guess that depends on where I get my info from compared to someone else.

it's also engaging in Whataboutism. You can google that.
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Originally Posted by Sama View Post Why should there be any comparison at all? When I'm in India I don't expect anything major that happens in America to be broadcast in the Indian news or written about in Indian papers. Why would I?
But it is there. Even major UK stuff gets a mention, and India is far more interested in USA.
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Frankly, when Hurricane Katrina happened in 2005 during my first trip to India, I didn't hear or read anything about it when I was in Chennai. I had no idea it happened. I learned about it in emails from friends.
Harvey has been reported. Katrina was too.
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Comparing news coverage of both is like two cancer patients comparing their treatments: "mine is worse than yours." "oh yeah, well, mine is...." whatever. And where I am I've known about the India floods together with news about Houston. I guess that depends on how and where I get my news compared to someone else.
Major Indian floods etc are reported on the BBC. Not in America?
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post ...Major Indian floods etc are reported on the BBC. Not in America?
Beginning to show up for India, Nepal, and Bangladesh. Bihar given some coverage. But especially on TV it's mostly Houston Houston Houston and selling automobiles.
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post Katrina was too.
Not to the extent 12 years ago that things are reported now.


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Not in America?
Who said they weren't reported?

I just wrote, "And where I am I've known about the India floods together with news about Houston. I guess that depends on how and where I get my news compared to someone else."

Of course American news outlets are going to REPORT AMERICAN NEWS for the most part. There are local and national news shows. Local reports local and national and world news run 2nd and 3rd. National news shows report national and world news. That's pretty simple to figure out.

Wasn't there a huge train wreck a few weeks ago? Heard about it on the national news. The riots for the raping guru were also reported on national/world news like CNN. Buildings collapsing now in Mumbai also reported as was the Chennai flooding in 2015.
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Originally Posted by Sama View Post Not to the extent 12 years ago that things are reported now.
As far as I recollect there were regular articles in the newspapers and TV about Katrina in Mumbai. I think this should be case at all major cities.

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There were a couple of derailments 3-4 days apart. First case the train was allowed to pass through a stretch where workers had removed a length of the rail for repair work. Second case passenger train hit a truck.
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It's also quite subjective, isn't it?

If someone is a news junkie or just watches one major news outlet a day they will notice what is or is not reported widely on the news.

If someone never reads a paper or turns on the TV or doesn't sit in front of their computer all day -- yes, there ARE people like that -- perusing Yahoo News or CNN or whatever, they will miss what's going on in the world outside their own microcosm. Frankly, I know hard core gardeners who spend 6-8 hrs a day outside and couldn't give a rat's ass what happens outside their own compost bin. You can ask them, "did you hear about...." or "did you know...." Their answer: nope.
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Originally Posted by Sama View Post If someone never reads a paper or turns on the TV or doesn't sit in front of their computer all day -- yes, there ARE people like that -- perusing Yahoo News or CNN or whatever, they will miss what's going on in the world outside their own microcosm.
Especially when they are away on a vacation. When I am away on a vacation I miss reading the newspaper.

That does not mean that events around the world are not covered in Indian print and television. They choose to avoid keeping themselves updated. Even if they choose to spend 10-15 minutes they would come to know of the major happenings across India or abroad. Katrina was usually in the first page of newspapers.
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I begin to regret putting up this thread, seems to be vereing of to a path that was not intended

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