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Mar 7th, 2010, 06:29
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#1 | | Member
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| entry into Sri Krishan temples by non Hindus Does anyone know if non Hindus are allowed entry into the following
temples in Trissur:
Kannapuram Shree Krishna Temple
Thiruvambadi Sri Krishna temple
Cherumuck Sree Krishna Temple
Vattambalam (sree krishna temple)
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Mar 7th, 2010, 16:28
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#2 | | Member
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| Hi Hi non hindus are not allowed in side this tempiles. |
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Mar 7th, 2010, 18:36
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#3 | | Maha Guru Member
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| In Kerala, non-Hindus are not allowed in any temple at all. |
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Mar 7th, 2010, 22:40
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Originally Posted by federica In Kerala, non-Hindus are not allowed in any temple at all. | Federica, that is not true. There are temples which allow non-Hindus too.
I don't know enough about the specific temples in question to give a correct reply. |
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Mar 8th, 2010, 02:56
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#5 | | Maha Guru Member
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| If so there are not many. The famous ones don't. I was always told only if you proof that you have converted and bring a certain certificate you're allowed.
In some small places it might be possible just to switch in (could do that once), especially if you're accompanied by a local.
In general, they are very strict. I heard even Yesudas had to stay outside singing a Hindu devotional song at Guruvayoor  (maybe that was just a rumour). |
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Mar 8th, 2010, 03:13
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Originally Posted by federica If so there are not many. The famous ones don't. I was always told only if you proof that you have converted and bring a certain certificate you're allowed. | Hmm.. Sabarimala is one major temple that comes to mind quickly. It is my understanding that Ayyappa temples tend to be lenient.
AFAIK, the certificate that they ask for is from Arya Samajam, Kozhikode. Quote:
In general, they are very strict. I heard even Yesudas had to stay outside singing a Hindu devotional song at Guruvayoor (maybe that was just a rumour)
| Unfortunately, that was not a rumor. As I recall, he even offered to get the temple doors open just by singing. |
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Mar 8th, 2010, 04:20
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#7 | | Maha Guru Member
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| Sabarimala is only for men, you should add that. No idea about the OP  |
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Mar 8th, 2010, 04:31
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| Oh, we have been going off topic for quite sometime now  . The OP's query was about specific Sri Krishna temples. |
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Mar 8th, 2010, 13:25
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| If you look Indian and dress appropriately, you can enter any temple. I'm pretty sure that at least in Thiruvambadi, they don't ask for id proofs. I know of muslims and christians who have entered in this way. It is a ridiculous rule anyway and has come in for public criticism in recent times. I do believe that arya samaj certificates would work otherwise (as mentioned earlier). |
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Mar 8th, 2010, 13:27
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#10 | | Maha Guru Member
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Originally Posted by Darklord Hmm.. Sabarimala is one major temple that comes to mind quickly. It is my understanding that Ayyappa temples tend to be lenient.
AFAIK, the certificate that they ask for is from Arya Samajam, Kozhikode. | That's right the Arya samaj certificate, i.e. that one has embraced sanatan dham and become hindusised rather then having become a hindu, allowed me entrance to Guruvayur and all those Temples. Mind you i was on a yatra with a Northern Vaisnav group, still there wasn't any real hassle about it although that was a few years back as well. |
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Mar 8th, 2010, 14:41
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Originally Posted by angleofdeath If you look Indian and dress appropriately, you can enter any temple. | Not always true. I heard of Christian girls from Trivandrum (locals) who were refused at the big temple in their own city. Quote:
Originally Posted by angleofdeath It is a ridiculous rule anyway and has come in for public criticism in recent times. I do believe that arya samaj certificates would work otherwise (as mentioned earlier). | 15 years ago it was more relaxed than 5 years ago, so not sure whether the ruleas will change in near future.
Still I met many (including devote Brahmins) who were criticizing these rules and got upset that they were followed so strictly. |
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Mar 8th, 2010, 17:40
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Originally Posted by federica Not always true. I heard of Christian girls from Trivandrum (locals) who were refused at the big temple in their own city. | That seems unlikely. As far as I know, ID proofs are not mandatory at any temple. The only possibility is someone recognized them as Christians (prior knowledge/familiarity) and saw to it that they were denied entry. Of course, common sense should prevail if one desires to enter a temple in spite of not belonging to the hindu faith. Sporting religious symbols of other faiths, on your person, is a giveaway. Also, you would have to address each other using hindu-sounding names. Quote:
Originally Posted by federica 15 years ago it was more relaxed than 5 years ago, so not sure whether the ruleas will change in near future.
Still I met many (including devote Brahmins) who were criticizing these rules and got upset that they were followed so strictly. | Agreed. The rule makes no sense, whatsoever. |
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Mar 8th, 2010, 22:14
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#13 | | indian student in denmark
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| hey guys do you remember the incidence of refusing a foriegner into guruvayur temple , and then closing it for doing purification. please do not motivate especially foriegners to enter , again such an act would be a hot news india , as far as kerala hindu temples are concerned , even the srikrishna temple , you should proove that you have taken sanathana dharma. |
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Mar 8th, 2010, 22:28
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| Legal aspect Just for your information: the legal aspect. Quote:
295. Injuring or defiling place of worship with intent to insult the religion of any class
Whoever destroys, damages or defiles any place of worship, or any object held sacred by any class of persons with the intention of thereby insulting the religion of any class of persons or with the knowledge that any class of persons is likely to consider such destruction, damage or defilement as an insult to their religion, shall be punishable with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to two years, or with fine, or with both.
145[295A. Deliberate and malicious acts, intended to outrage religious feelings of any class by insulting its religion or religious beliefs
Whoever, with deliberate and malicious intention of outraging the religious feelings of any class of 146[citizens of India], 147[by words, either spoken or written, or by signs or by visible representations or otherwise], insults or attempts to insult the religion or the religious beliefs of that class, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to 148[three years], or with fine, or with both.]
297. Trespassing on burial places, etc
Whoever, with the intention of wounding the feelings of any person, or of insulting the religion of any person, or with the knowledge that the feelings of any person are likely to be wounded, or that the religion of any person is likely to be insulted thereby, commits any trespass in any place of worship or on any place of sculpture, or any place set apart from the performance of funeral rites or as a depository for the remains of the dead, or offers any indignity to any human corpse, or causes disturbance to any persons assembled for the performance of funeral ceremonies, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to one year, or with fine, or with both.
| http://www.mppolice.gov.in/Static/IP.../chapter15.htm |
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Mar 8th, 2010, 22:50
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#15 | | Didn't You Use to Be Nick-H?
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| So... resist destruction, damage and defiling, and you're fine! Or so one might think, but, of course... no.
But then, if I carry on about this, I am in severe danger of Uttering, words, etc., with deliberate intent to wound the religious feelings of any person...
So I won't  |
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