Dark is divine: What colour are Indian gods and goddesses?

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Interesting item, please think about the item, rather than start knocking the BBC?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-42637998

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Krishna was not so much dark as... blue!
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I think originally it was only 'Shayam rang' or dark coloured, and comparisons were made to dark monsoon clouds etc. Blue colour came much later into consideration, and is probably an outcome of 'Bhakti movement' when music and poems played a big role in progression of the movement.
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“ Indian” Gods?
So therefore we must also have some

“Irish” Gods
Japanese Gods, Israeli Gods? Anymore?
Is it the new nomenclature trending now?
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... is it the same that rendered Krishna as a perpetual sweet little boy? Whereas he was quite often not at all sweet as a child, and absolutely fearsome to mess with as an adult.
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Originally Posted by surya2015 View Post “ Indian” Gods?
So therefore we must also have some

“Irish” Gods
Japanese Gods, Israeli Gods? Any more?
Is it the new nomenclature trending now?
Jesus, a Middle Eastern god, is also generally depicted as light-skinned, with Western European rather than semitic facial features. You won't learn about that on the BBC web pages.

(Of course, while his mother was Jewish, the race of his other birth parent, the old bearded guy, is unspecified. However, one could say he also originated in the Middle East.)
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Originally Posted by jituyadav View Post I think originally it was only 'Shayam rang' or dark coloured, and comparisons were made to dark monsoon clouds etc. Blue colour came much later into consideration, and is probably an outcome of 'Bhakti movement' when music and poems played a big role in progression of the movement.
Could one speculate that they weren't too happy about a dark-skinned god, but couldn't whitewash him entirely given the written evidence, so they redefined him as dark blue?

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"Everyone here prefers fair skin. But I am a dark-skinned person and all my friends are dark-skinned too. So how do I identify with fair-skinned gods and goddesses?"
This is a misunderstanding. Gods and Bollywood stars aren't representations of who we are, but of who we aspire to be.
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Originally Posted by surya2015 View Post “ Indian” Gods?
So therefore we must also have some

“Irish” Gods
Japanese Gods, Israeli Gods? Anymore?
Is it the new nomenclature trending now?
The BBC uses the lower case "g".

And here is what Hobson-Jobson has to say about goddess:

An absurd corruption which used to be applied by our countrymen in the old settlements in the Malay countries to the young women o the land. It is Malay gadis, 'a virgin'.

And BTW disn't the Hindutva types protest when Peter Brook cast a person of African ancestry as Ghatotkach in his Mahabharata!



And here is the 1965 film in full length:



Abhi Bhattacharya plays Krishna and Dara Singh plays Bhim. I haven't figured out who plays Hidimba or Ghatotkach. I'll have to watch the whole film for that.
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Originally Posted by RPG View Post Jesus, a Middle Eastern god, is also generally depicted as light-skinned, with Western European rather than semitic facial features. You won't learn about that on the BBC web pages.
Swedish gods are all blond(e) for sure. Blue eyed blonds to be complete. Some of them may be brunettes, however.
BBC will have to confirm it though, don’t see any reason not to.
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Worth reading Devdutt Patnaik's view on the matter -

http://devdutt.com/articles/indian-m...hite-gods.html

...saves me a lot of typing
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Originally Posted by RPG View Post Could one speculate that they weren't too happy about a dark-skinned god, but couldn't whitewash him entirely given the written evidence, so they redefined him as dark blue?
I don't think so. I believe that attributing blue colour to krishna is due to the story of 'Putna' breastfeeding infant krishna with poison, and later Krishna going into poisoned river Yamuna to fight with 'Kaliya the snake'.

Since humans see blue coloured body as indication of poisoning, many creators would have taken the liberty to be imaginative and show krishna as blue in stories and poems, depicting in a way that strongest poison could not harm krishna a bit, a very godly thing.
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I guess the thrust of the item was to throw light on the notion that having lighter skin tone is preferable. (No pun intended)

Talking of blue blood, sort of, why do Bramin families paint their houses blue?

Let's not forget that there are no real gods of any hue, just the ones humans think up. Other viewpoints are available...


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Are you taking about the blue houses in Jodhpur?
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Dark is divine: What colour are Indian gods and goddesses?

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Talking of blue blood, sort of, why do Bramin families paint their houses blue?
New to me. I don't know any blue Brahmin houses. Or Brahmin blue houses. Or....
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