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Old Jun 27th, 2008, 12:08   #211
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A recommendation for those who are seeking the areas where "mainstream tourism" hasn't yet begun: Venezuela. My husband and I spent a month and got married there. Rented a car and drove all over the place. Not one american. I don't think we encountered any foreigners (until we got to Los Roques). The Venezuelans travel alot within Ven. with their families. It was awesome...though I now wish we had just flown where we wanted to go...or taken buses...I rode the whole way around clinching the door grips and covering my eyes

Venezuela is a fabulous place to get away for a relaxing and charming time. Venezuelans keep to themselves but are very happy and nice.
Yeah, tourism under that pyscho Chavez is just peachy. I just moved from Panama in March to India. Any Venezuelan with the means to do so is getting out (many into Panama City). You travel at your own risk. Venezuela is a beautiful country with wonderful people. Too bad they let themselves be taken in by someone who is destroying their economy.
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Old Jun 27th, 2008, 12:21   #212
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Hi folks- my thoughts real quickly- I'm an american who has traveled quite a bit, and my hubby and I always remark on the lack of Americans. We meet many germans, aussies, french, some canadians, and a few from c. or s. america (usually Argentina or Brazil). Here are some reasons you don't see many american tourists over seas:
Only some of us get 2 weeks vacation. in america, you usually have to be at your same job for over a year to earn 2 weeks off. Overseas trips require long (expensive) flights, require days of travel, and time to adjust and get one's bearings. With only 2 weeks, who wants to go to so much trouble? Especially considering that americans tend to work their rumps off.

Americans are also very comfortable- and sorry, but many are materialistic and the priority to is to get things, not go places.

Since 9/11- I think many americans are scared to fly and to be overseas.

Also, keep in mind that a ridiculous number of Americans are taking prescription drugs to treat anxiety, depression, and sleeplessness. The rest of us are self-medicating with alcohol, drugs, pain-killers, etc. Even our children (15% at my last checking) are medicated to treat the same, and "hyperactivity"- we are a scared, nervous, tired, sad lot.

Another thing: even the rich of America are buried in debt (mortgage, car payment, credit card debt, etc.)- Fighting hard everyday to make sure our neighbor doesn't get one over on us No time to be out seeing the world...'specially if it might be uncomfortable.

Does India have a Hard Rock Cafe or Disney World yet? When it does, you're bound to have Americans a'plenty

Which brings me to a question: do they take these drugs in India? Do Indian children take drugs to treat their child-like ways? Really- I have been curious for some time about this.
Wow. That's a pretty sad description of a population of 280 million people. Maybe you should turn off the television for a while since the OC and Desperate Housewives are taking a huge toll on your "generalizations" skills. The people I know are doing well despite the high gas prices. Guess all that clinging to guns and religion helps a bit--oh, and personal responsibility about living within your means.

And yes, there is a Hard Rock at least in Mumbai. I've been there just last Saturday as it was close to lower Parel where we were shopping. Imagine my surprise to see a huge group of Japanese. We should've run them out. They might have been keeping other Americans from having that table! Then again, trying to function within my drug induced haze, due to my lack of coping skills, kept me in a fearful ball in the corner clutching the Prada bag that I bought instead of paying my credit card bill.

Your post is astonishing. Really.

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Old Jun 27th, 2008, 14:09   #213
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Most Americans do their overseas travelling in Canada, Mexico and the Caribbean; just as most Europeans do their travelling in Europe.
Overseas? Canada and Mexico? I knew I'd been out of touch with current events lately, but I don't know how I could have missed the U.S.'s detachment from the rest of the North American continent!
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Old Jun 27th, 2008, 14:23   #214
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It is just a synonym for "foreign", so I'd not read too much into it.
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Old Jun 27th, 2008, 14:25   #215
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Overseas? Canada and Mexico? I knew I'd been out of touch with current events lately, but I don't know how I could have missed the U.S.'s detachment from the rest of the North American continent!
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Old Jun 27th, 2008, 14:26   #216
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And only the Panama canal separates it from the South American continent. I guess it's big, as canals go...

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Old Sep 9th, 2008, 14:15   #217
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Okay, okay...

I'm an American living in India, starting my second year actually. I agree with many of the comments made about Americans here. I think America represents both the best and worst of humanity, since after all, it's made up of people from everywhere.

That said, I do experience a couple of things here that are quite disturbing. Everywhere I go here in India, people treat me as if I were a walking wallet. Prices shoot up just because of the color of my skin. After they ask me where I'm from, the price goes even higher or the bargaining ends. It really pisses me off to no end. I explain that I get paid in rupees, too, but that doesn't work. They just assume I must make a huge paycheck.

Another thing that drives me crazy (and really exemplifies the American mentality) are the emails that you get from the U.S. Consulate. I registered my passports at the one in Kolkata and as a parting gift, they gave me a CD explaining the dangers of the Avian Flu. (thanks.) Every now and again, they send out travel advisories, urging Americans to stay indoors, to avoid public places and crowds (um, have you left the consulate? how do you avoid crowds in Kolkata?).

I also avoid the tourist areas of any place I'm living in. I'm just not that hospitable and welcoming, I guess. Tourists are irritating to me and drive up the prices I have to pay to live here. I watched an American woman pick up The Hungry Tide by Amitav Ghosh, muttering that she needed to pick up a trash novel for the bus... "Madam," I said, "that is no trash novel." and explained to her that she should read it for its amazing history of the city she was in, the wonderful story lines entwining like the Ganges delta... I later saw her purchase something by Sidney Sheldon. :-(

Americans. There a lot less of them here in India. I like it that way! :-)
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Old Sep 9th, 2008, 19:20   #218
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What you're doing here is assigning similar stereotypes to tourists, e.g. "Tourists are irritating to me and drive up the prices I have to pay here" that drive you crazy when Indians assign them to you, e.g. "Everywhere I go here in India, people treat me as if I were a walking wallet". Perhaps you should wear a T-shirt around that says "I live here, I'm not one of THEM(Thank God)".
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LOL, Bruce. So true.

I apologize. I did learn how to say in Bengali, "I'm not a tourist, brother. My house is in Jadavpur. I don't have an ATM machine in my pocket."

One of those pesky guys that hang around at New Market dropped his basket, he was so stunned. I just walked away. :-)

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Old Sep 10th, 2008, 00:12   #220
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Jeanne...I can only imagine the scene...first the jaw drop and then basket
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Old Sep 10th, 2008, 01:01   #221
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On the rare occasions when I am in vicinities in which tourists get preyed on by auto drivers etc, the following conversation can cause laughter all round:

"Auto, Sir? very nice auto!"

I wave my car key at him. "Taxi? Very nice car!"


(I guess I'm lucky the joke has never backfired, with a complaint against me for touting a non-tourist car!!!)
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Old Sep 10th, 2008, 01:39   #222
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I wave my car key at him. "Taxi? Very nice car!"
Okay, I am stealing that line!
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Old Sep 10th, 2008, 01:45   #223
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I was totally ignorant of the term 'tout' before India. I had no idea what people were referring to. 'Better watch out for those touts peak - they'll kidnap you, fleece you & then leave abandoned on some street corner in Srinagar or somewhere'. Hmmmm I thought - what kind of creatures would do a thing like that?

..... It's not that we don't have them in Canada but they seem to be described more aptly as to their specific item/service/scam that they happen to be <ermm> .... touting.
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Old Sep 10th, 2008, 11:58   #224
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Peak - you and me both. I was actually going to ask what a tout was, but wisely did a search to read more about these 'touts'. I did not want to post something that had been discussed ad naseum in triplicate. And then it became crystal clear. It was the people calling out offering their services.


now if only I understood wallah...
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'Tout' refers derogatorily to a middleman, and is a few shades more presentable than 'pimp'.


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now if only I understood wallah...
'wallah' is Hindustani and, umm, related to 'a person belonging to, selling or involved in a named profession or activity' (thats the closest I can get)

kabaarywallah (with apologies to an esteemed member here ) is one who buys old newspapers, bottles and other household junk for subsequent resale.

a chanawallah (or seengwala in parts of India) sells peanuts at the roadside,

a chaiwallah sells tea

'Shakespeare wallah', was a movie about travelling British actors performing plays across Indian towns

and so on
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