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Old Sep 14th, 2007, 06:20   #1
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10 suspected burglers beaten to death in Bihar

NEW DELHI (AFP) - Ten men suspected of burglary were beaten to death by angry villagers in India's crime-hit eastern state of Bihar, reports said.


One person was also left seriously injured after residents of the village of Dhelpurwa descended on the suspected thieves before dawn, police told the Press Trust of India news agency on Thursday.

Television channels showed bodies lying scattered in the middle of a circle of hundreds of onlookers being kept back by dozens of police, while another body lay in the bushes.


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Old Sep 14th, 2007, 09:09   #2
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Old Sep 14th, 2007, 10:29   #3
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I read this today, too.

The situation in Bihar is getting worse. I am not saying this, the Chief Minister of Bihar has admitted that much.
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Old Sep 14th, 2007, 11:40   #4
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I read this today, too.

The situation in Bihar is getting worse. I am not saying this, the Chief Minister of Bihar has admitted that much.
It is not the Bihar alone.
A school teacher is assualted by frenzy mob at New Delhi.
A professor is trashed by students of a refuted college in Mumbai.
A TV Channel office in Chennai is ransacked by mobs comprising of a political party workers.
There are many such instances in the recent period where public has been taking law in to their own hands.
The points to ponder are whether it is a deep routed social malady or the lack of confidence by the general public on the law enforcing agencies or the political patronage of elements responsible for such actions. I guess it is all these three factors and may be more.

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Old Sep 14th, 2007, 12:14   #5
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I have expressed these sentiments elsewhere too, and on indiamike

I think the real cause is frustration at a system which only works for the rich and powerful...and at a time when economic disparity is increasing and the population getting younger--

which by definition means more numbers of young rural and urban disenfranchised; that's why I think we may be sitting on a bomb here, because the young are more impatient with either trickle down economics or trickle down justice.

Time is running out, is all.
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Old Sep 14th, 2007, 12:26   #6
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It's always been a habit, though it is recently finding due representation in the media. However, the headline in today's TOI regarding this incident was truly shocking. It read:
Police inaction forces vigilants to kill 10 thieves.

"Forces."

It tells you all you need to know about the attitude regarding such crimes.
Of course every Tom, Dick and Hari explains such incidents with reference to "police inaction", but remember the words of George Bernard Shaw: Democracy is a system that ensures that we are governed no better than we deserve.
Surely there are other ways to deal with "police inaction" than to kill all thieves. And why only thieves? Ever wondered? I chose not to kill the two thieves who burgled my house, and boy, did i face police inaction!
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A professor is trashed by students of a refuted college in Mumbai.


Excellent typos!!!

If not, excellent joke
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Old Sep 14th, 2007, 12:35   #8
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I'm certainly not defending these murders, but to me there are 2 types of theft, theft from people who are in a position to replace the stolen items, and theft from those who can't replace it.

Anger levels of each victim may depend on how the thefts will affect their lives.

One victim will be furious that they have to go to the trouble of replacing things, another victim will be wondering how they will feed their children.
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If this sort of an Incident is not condemned in the strogest terms and if appropriate action is not taken then it might serve as a motivating example for the general Public who might also start to do the same.
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but to me there are 2 types of theft, theft from people who are in a position to replace the stolen items, and theft from those who can't replace it.
My first reaction would be to state, very cynically of course, that here we obviously have someone who's never been mugged. But I do remember faintly that you'd mentioned something to the contrary in some other entry. So nevermind.

Well, i made acquaintances with a few muggers and none of them stole their next meal but resorted to this "lifestyle" because it's so much easier than to actually work. I do not feel sorry for them. Neither do i feel sorry for a poor person stealing bread from a very rich person. It's wrong, whether you are lazy and arrogant or really poor and hungry. It's not the way to go about life. At the same time I do not think that this justifies murder. Nobody has a right to steal, no matter how poor, and nobody has the right to punish the thief except a court of law. Sympathy, empathy or whatever you may feel, is to be taken out of the equation. You'll get nowhere if you chose to "understand" some persons theft while condemning another's.
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If this sort of an Incident is not condemned in the strogest terms and if appropriate action is not taken then it might serve as a motivating example for the general Public who might also start to do the same.
I thought this kind of thing had been happening for years?????

The only reason this is big news is because 10 people were killed, over the years I've read about probibly hundreds of these incidents, though normally there are just 1 or 2 victims.
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My first reaction would be to state, very cynically of course, that here we obviously have someone who's never been mugged. But I do remember faintly that you'd mentioned something to the contrary in some other entry. So nevermind.

Well, i made acquaintances with a few muggers and none of them stole their next meal but resorted to this "lifestyle" because it's so much easier than to actually work. I do not feel sorry for them. Neither do i feel sorry for a poor person stealing bread from a very rich person. It's wrong, whether you are lazy and arrogant or really poor and hungry. It's not the way to go about life. At the same time I do not think that this justifies murder. Nobody has a right to steal, no matter how poor, and nobody has the right to punish the thief except a court of law. Sympathy, empathy or whatever you may feel, is to be taken out of the equation. You'll get nowhere if you chose to "understand" some persons theft while condemning another's.
My post was about the victims of theft and not about the thieves, theft is wrong and thieves should always be punished.

I have been the victim of both kinds of theft, in wealthier days I had over £1000 stolen from me, I was furious, but it was just money, I replaced it and life carried on as normal.

In less wealthy days my (now ex) wife had her handbag stolen, it only contained about £100, but we were not in a position to replace the money, we struggled for about a month to get back to normal, also in the handbag was the only photo she had of her father, that could never be replaced.

As I said, crimes affect people in different ways.
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I thought this kind of thing had been happening for years?????

The only reason this is big news is because 10 people were killed, over the years I've read about probibly hundreds of these incidents, though normally there are just 1 or 2 victims.

But, they have not received as much Main-stream media coverage as these incidents are receiving over the past couple of weeks. And, People might get more emboldened with this and headlies like this from Papers do not help matters.

' Police inaction forces vigilants to kill 10 thieves.' Toi.
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' Police inaction forces vigilants to kill 10 thieves.' Toi.
It is a dreadful headline, almost an invitation for others to do the same.
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Old Sep 14th, 2007, 13:30   #15
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Dont even get me started on the Indian media
They are now, too often, factually and grammatically incorrect, and the race for ratings has thrown truth out of the window, replacing it with sound bytes.

Just one example- the schoolteacher assaulted in delhi which I think sadanand referred to in post 4.. was because reporters published that she forced children into prostitution.

A couple of days later, that story is shown to be false and the reporters have been arrested.


I could give you a dozen examples from memory.
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