buy a motorbike

maik · Feb 11th, 2006, 02:41

hi!
we are planing to go to india around april. up to now it is not sure where we will go to - kokatta or to dehli. but our plan is to buy a motorbike (for example an enfield) and travel around the north (darjeeling, ladakh and may be visit some friends in nepal) . And now my questions:

could anybody recomand a reliable dealer in kolkatta or dehli?
or wants anybody to sell his bike which is in "super conditions"?
how much i have to pay for an 350ccm or a 500ccm enfield?
is it possible to sit with two persons and a little bit luggage one bike?
is it possible to pas to border to nepal with the bike?
is a carnet nessessary?

thanks a lot!
maik

FaiyazSultan · Feb 11th, 2006, 02:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by maik

hi!
we are planing to go to india around april. up to now it is not sure where we will go to - kokatta or to dehli. but our plan is to buy a motorbike (for example an enfield) and travel around the north (darjeeling, ladakh and may be visit some friends in nepal) . And now my questions:

could anybody recomand a reliable dealer in kolkatta or dehli?
or wants anybody to sell his bike which is in "super conditions"?
how much i have to pay for an 350ccm or a 500ccm enfield?
is it possible to sit with two persons and a little bit luggage one bike?
is it possible to pas to border to nepal with the bike?
is a carnet nessessary?

thanks a lot!
maik

You are Most Welcome Maik ... Now first of all could you please tell me ... if you wanna tour South Indian or North India [ Specially Himalayas]

If you wanna go for North, then land in New Delhi. There are hell loads of dealers you can get here who sell good Enfields. My suggestion to you is to get RE 535 Lightning which has hell loads of Torgue for climbing up hills...

Good reliable dealers .... Well ... I need to check ... and let you know by tommorow ...

Good Condition RE350 (1998) would cost you Rs 30K
A new RE was for Sale 2005 Model last week which was sold for Rs 60k

RE is by far the best Touring bike you could puchase .... as for 2 people + luggauge ....

If you are planing to Cross borders ... please make sure that you check the papers of the bike before buying ...
If you are comin to Delhi ... I would help you with REs arround Delhi area

manreet_16 · Feb 11th, 2006, 02:51

hi,hope i can help u....350cc is good for 2 persons to adjust.....price depends on models...98 model can be purchased @ around Rs 30,000...ya possible to go nepal route via delhi i know..best of luck..and be happy..and plz love yourself..

Yogesh Sarkar · Feb 11th, 2006, 03:13

Hi Maik welcome to IndiaMike, regarding purchasing motorcycles and esp the an RE you have few choices. In case you have lots of luggage and wants to tour with a pillion and dont care that much about fuel economy (about cutting it to almost half!) then look no further then the RE500. It’s a great tourer esp if you got lots of luggage.

In case you are interested in better fuel economy then you can go in for RE bullet 350std, Electra, Machismo or Thunderbird. They are just as good, but slightly low on torque compared to the 500. For more information regarding Royal Enfield Motorcycles and for the ExShowroom price of their new bikes you can visit www.royalenfield.com

Don’t know much about Calcutta, but in Delhi you can buy a new/old or in case you are interested get one on rent from the numerous dealers. In case you want to rent one and are thinking of going to Nepal make sure the dealer provides you with all the necessary papers in original not the photo copied one.

As far as mounting luggage goes, you can get luggage racks built for your motorcycle from Karol Bagh in Delhi. In case you are interested in going in for saddlebags instead of the luggage racks, you can order them from www.cramster.in.

In case you need any help drop a line here

, hope you have a pleasant journey

maik · Mar 6th, 2006, 20:56

Thank you guys for answering!
but i have another question to my theme "buy a motorbike" because i have read on a german website that it is not possible to buy a motorbike for foreigners in india. is that true? has anybody the same/ or other informations about that? i am confused because lonley planet recomands better to buy than to rent a maschine....

thank you!

Maik

jivan · Mar 6th, 2006, 23:10

what is a carnet? Explanations with pictures if possible? is it the same as shown on cramster.in those big side leather pouches/saddlebags or something different altogether?

scub_a_holic · Mar 7th, 2006, 11:46

A carnet is like a passport for your vechicle. Its a document that you show as you enter and leave a country and then proves that you didn't try to sell your vechicle illegally in that country.

If your not a resident then no you are not allowed to purchase a vechicle. There are places that you can organise a buy back option at the end of your trip, it really is still renting the bike. Also some people start their trips in Bangladesh where you can purchase without issues.

zzzehar · Mar 7th, 2006, 11:57

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Originally Posted by manreet_16

..and be happy..and plz love yourself..

I understood what you meant by your post but this last line had me wonder ! What did you mean by "plz love yourself" ? I also noticed the usage of words like "hot blood" by MANREET_16 somewhere else on this forum? Isn't that a direct translation from Hindi/Punjabi to English of "Garam Khoon"?

No offences meant, but I find your verbiage funny and wierd sounding !

zzzehar · Mar 7th, 2006, 12:02

Check out http://lallisingh.com

I would suggest you to rent out a bike than to buy it ! Lalli singh has a wide range of bikes and they also train you on repairs and fixes in case It breaks down. He will supply you all the tools with guidance on their usage. He's a very professional guy with equally professional workers. I have posted a few links and galleries of the people who rented out the bikes from Lalli Singh and toured whole India.

TimMakins · Mar 7th, 2006, 14:13

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Originally Posted by zzzehar

I would suggest you to rent out a bike than to buy it !

Yes, good idea, especially if you are a newcomer - at least then you can see what you are letting yourself in for before you make a commitment.

Have you been to India before, and ridden much on a bike there? The road surface and the way Indians drive on it are both attrocious!! I can think of nothing worse than spending hours on a motorbike chugging the huge distances that make up India, and what's the point anyway, when the public transport is so very good and cheap?

Also, you will need to find some way to travel with your belongings, so you will need to get special bags and panniers organised, and maybe store your backpack somewhere before you set off. Then you need to think about security: when you stop to see some site of interest, or stop for the night at a hotel, you need to make sure your bike and your gear won't be stolen. And what if it breaks down: Indian bikes aren't as reliable as other ones. Are you a good mechanic?

Such a lot of hassle - why bother?

If you really like motorbikes, it might be just as fun to hire a bike locally for a few days - many places do this: Goa, Manali, and lots of other tourist spots.

Tim in Ireland

globalgoldie · Apr 7th, 2006, 14:33

lalli singh,new delhi is ur one stop solution to all ur queries, i covered leh-ladakh in sep-oct-2005 on my 1991 350cc enfield wid a pillion and our 13day luggage...came back without even a single puncture,no broken cables,no starting trouble..nothinggg... i have some pics in my gallery from my trip.thought dont know nething bout the Carnet,and even i would like to know more bout carnet,might be doing delhi-nepal sometime this year..but one thing Brother.. Enfield is Enfield,nothing can beat a Royal Enfield ..exploring India on a Royal Enfield is total diff experience which u will never forget.....Lightening was discontinued a long time back i believe....u might b able to get a second hand. u shoud land in Delhi,and ur first stop shoud b Lalli Singh...

Feb 11th, 2006, 02:41	#1
maik Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 2	buy a motorbike hi! we are planing to go to india around april. up to now it is not sure where we will go to - kokatta or to dehli. but our plan is to buy a motorbike (for example an enfield) and travel around the north (darjeeling, ladakh and may be visit some friends in nepal) . And now my questions: could anybody recomand a reliable dealer in kolkatta or dehli? or wants anybody to sell his bike which is in "super conditions"? how much i have to pay for an 350ccm or a 500ccm enfield? is it possible to sit with two persons and a little bit luggage one bike? is it possible to pas to border to nepal with the bike? is a carnet nessessary? thanks a lot! maik

Feb 11th, 2006, 03:13	#4
Yogesh Sarkar Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Delhi (India) Posts: 1,347	Hi Maik welcome to IndiaMike, regarding purchasing motorcycles and esp the an RE you have few choices. In case you have lots of luggage and wants to tour with a pillion and dont care that much about fuel economy (about cutting it to almost half!) then look no further then the RE500. It’s a great tourer esp if you got lots of luggage. In case you are interested in better fuel economy then you can go in for RE bullet 350std, Electra, Machismo or Thunderbird. They are just as good, but slightly low on torque compared to the 500. For more information regarding Royal Enfield Motorcycles and for the ExShowroom price of their new bikes you can visit www.royalenfield.com Don’t know much about Calcutta, but in Delhi you can buy a new/old or in case you are interested get one on rent from the numerous dealers. In case you want to rent one and are thinking of going to Nepal make sure the dealer provides you with all the necessary papers in original not the photo copied one. As far as mounting luggage goes, you can get luggage racks built for your motorcycle from Karol Bagh in Delhi. In case you are interested in going in for saddlebags instead of the luggage racks, you can order them from www.cramster.in. In case you need any help drop a line here , hope you have a pleasant journey __________________ My Travelogues \| My Blog \| All the info on Leh-Ladakh travel

Mar 6th, 2006, 20:56	#5
maik Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 2	more questions Thank you guys for answering! but i have another question to my theme "buy a motorbike" because i have read on a german website that it is not possible to buy a motorbike for foreigners in india. is that true? has anybody the same/ or other informations about that? i am confused because lonley planet recomands better to buy than to rent a maschine.... thank you! Maik

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Feb 11th, 2006, 02:51	#3
manreet_16 On the Move Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada\India Posts: 359	hi,hope i can help u....350cc is good for 2 persons to adjust.....price depends on models...98 model can be purchased @ around Rs 30,000...ya possible to go nepal route via delhi i know..best of luck..and be happy..and plz love yourself..

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jivan Maha Guru Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pune, India Posts: 862	what is a carnet? Explanations with pictures if possible? is it the same as shown on cramster.in those big side leather pouches/saddlebags or something different altogether?

Mar 7th, 2006, 11:46	#7
scub_a_holic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 119	A carnet is like a passport for your vechicle. Its a document that you show as you enter and leave a country and then proves that you didn't try to sell your vechicle illegally in that country. If your not a resident then no you are not allowed to purchase a vechicle. There are places that you can organise a buy back option at the end of your trip, it really is still renting the bike. Also some people start their trips in Bangladesh where you can purchase without issues.

Mar 7th, 2006, 12:02	#9
zzzehar Account Closed Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: I see a Woman on Top - Feels Like Heaven :-) Posts: 370	Check out http://lallisingh.com I would suggest you to rent out a bike than to buy it ! Lalli singh has a wide range of bikes and they also train you on repairs and fixes in case It breaks down. He will supply you all the tools with guidance on their usage. He's a very professional guy with equally professional workers. I have posted a few links and galleries of the people who rented out the bikes from Lalli Singh and toured whole India.

Apr 7th, 2006, 14:33	#11
globalgoldie Still Surviving Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: india,New Delhi Posts: 87	lalli singh,new delhi is ur one stop solution to all ur queries, i covered leh-ladakh in sep-oct-2005 on my 1991 350cc enfield wid a pillion and our 13day luggage...came back without even a single puncture,no broken cables,no starting trouble..nothinggg... i have some pics in my gallery from my trip.thought dont know nething bout the Carnet,and even i would like to know more bout carnet,might be doing delhi-nepal sometime this year..but one thing Brother.. Enfield is Enfield,nothing can beat a Royal Enfield ..exploring India on a Royal Enfield is total diff experience which u will never forget.....Lightening was discontinued a long time back i believe....u might b able to get a second hand. u shoud land in Delhi,and ur first stop shoud b Lalli Singh...