Bollywood in Black & White

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#1 May 13th, 2014, 22:10
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Before I am tempted to make any more threads go OT by linking Bollywood clips I have decided to start a new thread about Hindi films before Eastmancolor raised its ugly head and the Silver Screen was still silver, i.e. all shades of grey.

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Here is another "sweet" song for you. I'd have loved to have a birthday party like this one. Of course as a boy one would be bullied at school if one admitted to liking so-called "children's songs".



Note the line: "dhoop bani bebi to baba bana saya"

Are male and female children of a certain class still referred to as "baba" and "bebi" respectively? The collective term was of course "baba-log".

And BTW, in thr "train song" a whistle is called पीपनी (pīpanī). Is this word still in use?
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I know 40 somethings called 'baba' and 'bebi'!

What a find Lost, but found again. I love the cloud scene!
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At work and can't see the video but I don't like the word 'bollywood'. Black and white era movies were a million times better with sensible stories, great performances and melodious music.

Can't post the videos but two of my favourite kids related songs in black and white are 'Nanne Munne Bacche teri mutti mein kya hain'(Boot Polish) and 'Nanna munna rahi hoon, desh ki sipahi hoon'(Son of India?). One other was 'ichak daana ichak daana'(Shree 420) and there are many more.
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This is my favorite from Ab Dill door nahi.

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Black and white era movies were a million times better with sensible stories, great performances and melodious music.
So true, kaliyug..
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Originally Posted by ViShVa View Post I know 40 somethings called 'baba' and 'bebi'!
But any self-respecting teenager would kill you for that.

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Originally Posted by prince09 View Post Can't post the videos but two of my favourite kids related songs in black and white are 'Nanne Munne Bacche teri mutti mein kya hain'(Boot Polish) and 'Nanna munna rahi hoon, desh ki sipahi hoon'(Son of India?). One other was 'ichak daana ichak daana'(Shree 420) and there are many more.
Of course the term "Bollywood" didn't exist in those days. And BTW the 1956 film Bhai Bhai from which I took the birthday clip was produced by AVM and made in Madras. There is a short Bharat Natyam sequence in the song as a "Madras" signature, just before the Garba.

In the cast of Boot Polish the child actors were referred to as Master Rattan and Baby Naaz. Naaz had a big problem shaking off this "Baby" image in later films.

Son of India is a 1962 film. By that time Eastman Kodak had established its laboratory for colour processing in India. So the song is in "ugly" Eastmancolor. I always wondered what happened to Shanti Mathur. Her voice fitted "Master" Sajid (Mehboob Khan's son who played the child Sunil Dutt in Mother India) perfectly.



It's even in CINEMASCOPE.
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Great song Golghar. I used to sing this when I was a kid. Brought back memories. Thank you.
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Here is V.K.Murthy's masterpiece in Cinemascope and Black&White. It seems he passed away just a few weeks ago.

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Not sure whether 'kids' is the main subject of this thread but what do you think about this minus the english subtitles ofcourse?.

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Lata Mangeshkar and Madan Mohan made a good team. I'm not sure if one can say the same thing for Mala Sinha and Dharmendra. Raja Mehdi Ali Khan was a good poet.

This isn't exclusively a kiddie's thing: it's just that I belonged to the single digit age group when these films were released and couldn't really appreciate a love song in a semi-classical mode. A contemporary song that I could enjoy (in fact I knew the text by heart) was the dream sequence from Bimal Roy's Kabuliwala (1961), based on Rabindranath Tagore's short story:



Lots of clouds and Mini is played by Baby Sonu.
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O.k. and what about this? Do you remember?

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Oh, yes! I was too young at the time to be actually taken to watch the film but we had a 78rpm shellac gramophone record of it at home. The flip side had this song on it:



BTW, "aao bachho" is on the Bollyrail list.

And "patriotic" songs could sometimes have nasty undertones. This looks like an RSS rally, doesn't it? The text could have come straight from Syama Prasad Mookerjee.

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Some random pieces below.

Another "children's" song in black-and-white:



Speaking of Lata-MM, the ever-enigmatic:



This being IM, another one with trains:



...and the magical:



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With "lag jaa gale" you have introduced one of Lata's "top ten" from her 1967 list. I think it has remained there ever since. "Cheel cheel" and "Baharen Phir bhi aayengi" were on the Bollyrail list. Someone identified the line as one of the narrow gauge lines that used to run out of the Howrah Maidan station (the lines to Amta and Sheakhala).
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Originally Posted by Golghar View Post With "lag jaa gale" you have introduced one of Lata's "top ten" from her 1967 list. I think it has remained there ever since.
What a glorious work of art that song is. Apart from the singing itself, the picturization, the emoting, the lyrics of Raja Mehdi Ali Khan, and Madan Mohan's resplendent strings, are all sublime.

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Originally Posted by Golghar View Post "Cheel cheel" and "Baharen Phir bhi aayengi" were on the Bollyrail list. Someone identified the line as one of the narrow gauge lines that used to run out of the Howrah Maidan station (the lines to Amta and Sheakhala).
Quite possible. Guru Dutt's team used to shoot frequently in Kolkata and surroundings. He had passed away in the midst of filming of the original version of this movie (he was to play - and had partially shot for - Dharam's role).

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