Anyone seen the movie " Jodhaa Akbar" yet?

machadinha

That Tehelka article above suggests no such thing, quite the opposite (well, general opinion, yes, maybe). It's a good read, thanks, Neeli.

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NeeliAankhen

Glad if somebody else found that article interesting. A lot of thoughtful Bollywood/Indian movie fans I know have liked this better than they expected to -- I was thinking of it for awhile as a costumes/jewelry/scenery thing, but I hear that the treatment of the personal man-woman story is quite good.

Ignite

yeah i just saw the movie last night, and i thought it was pretty good, i mean nothing like "lagaan" by Ashutosh Gowariker, but it's a good love story, although historically the movie is very inaccurate. I would give it a 3.75/5.

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shashank.aggarwal

can someone point out the inaccuracies in the movies ?

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Ignite

Well, first and foremost is the fact that Jodhaa and Akbar were never married. Jodhaa was infact married to Akbar's son Jahangir, which leads to another mistake in the movie where Akbar accepts Jodhaa's "conditions" of keeping her name and her religion. Even as Jahangir's wife, she was not allowed to keep her name, and she was never called Jodhaa , she was rather called Mariam Zamani. Also, in the movie it shows that Akbar reads the letter that was written by Aishwarya Rai which cannot be true, because Akbar is known as the only descendant of Babur who was illiterate.

Another mistake in the movie was how the director portrayed Akbar as someone that doesn't like to behead the Kings he conquered, but he would rather just let them go. This is actually not true, because Akbar believed in his duties as a "Ghazi" (victor) and beheaded all the kings he conquered, and even made a pillar of all the heads, photos of which are currently displayed in the National Museum, New Delhi. But, he only did this to the soldiers or kings that he truly "conquered", he was never cruel,and he always let go of the king that "surrendered" to him.

shashank.aggarwal

1. Where is it written that Jodhaa was not married to Akbar ? its just a claim of families from Rajasthan and the history books I read in school did mentioned Jodhaa as Akbar's wife. And so does the legend has been regardless of the movie that Akbar married a hindu princess to have cordial relationships with Rajputs and other political gains.

2. Its clearly shown in the movie that Akbar is illiterate, cannot even read his name that Jodhaa writes in Urdu.

Ignite

I didn't say Akbar didn't marry hindu princess', I said he didn't marry Jodhaa!, he of course married A LOT of hindu princess', his first hindu wife was the daughter of the Raja of Jaipur, and it was for political Stability rather than political gains. There are no accurate history books that say Akbar and Jodha were married, but there is a biography of Akbar, commissioned by Akbar and written by his own advisor Abul Fazl; which mentions all of Akbar's life and his marriages to his queens. And none of these queens I assure you are "Jodhaa Bhai".

In fact, "Jodhaa Bhai" or Mariam Zamani is actually mentioned in Jahangir's auto biography as one of his hindu wives.

Trust me, I know this stuff, I had to do a research paper based on the Mughal Empire for my "Ancient Southasian History" class during my freshman year in college.

P.S: Ashutosh Gowariker himself admitted 70% of the movie is his own imagination.

shashank.aggarwal

hmmm...If you say that you have researched, then I might agree on it...however I won't blame the director or the movie, because this is what our history books taught us and this is what is popularly known..

crvlvr

I'd liek to point yout out to me earlier post #27 in this thread (Anyone seen the movie " Jodhaa Akbar" yet?)
A lot of what is taught in the school history books is history written by the british. IMHO, much of it is far from accurate. Starting with the Aryan Invasion.

edwardseco

Ferishta, I had to struggle with it in the Persian. But, I am older and lazier so I ordered a translation. Bapre, char hazar rupiyay..

HinduHomie

http://www.ibosnetwork.com/newsmanag...169 &zoneid=4


People please read this article to understand some of the controversy surrounding this mediocre movie.

crvlvr

The author does present some facts. but, has he forgotten that bolywood (King Khan to be precise) has alsreade a move on the great Auryan King Ashoka that bombed in the box office? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0249371/

machadinha

I'm sorry, I gave up after that early reference to what happened in "1568; only about 440 new years ago," and that following line of:

Shame that one apparently still can't produce a work of art (of whatever quality, I haven't seen it, and its artistic quality doesn't seem to have sparked the hullabaloo; in fact if it were so mediocre to begin with you'd think it might as well have gone ignored) today about what happened in 1568, only about 440 new [sic] years ago without assorted fronts rallying it to their causes.

NeeliAankhen

Not that this needs to be said, but "history" is just an assortment of versions of things, various people's informaiton they have developed, and thier ways of understanding it. It's not monolithic. And sorry for my impatience, but of course a work of art is mostly its creator's imagination, what else could it be? A documentary is mostly its creator's imagination/interpretation, for that matter.

I gather that the story of a Hindu wife named Jodhaa has been around for some time, and that scholarship has later suggested that this was not the name.

The movie seems to be about a marriage between people of different cultures and how they became a true integrated couple; presumably it can be experienced as being about marriage and love themselves, and also about the diversity of India and how, at its best, India creates amalgamations of diverse people who become an integrated political entity (India).

NeeliAankhen

Whoever posted that article, does it say something you like, admire, or agree with? I can't quite get my head around it but it seems sort of bellicose and communalistic to me, it doesn't seem like sober-minded film criticism or historical writing.