1857 and Dalrymple’s The Last Mughal

Sama · Apr 25th, 2007, 01:43

1857 and Dalrymple’s The Last Mughal

the blog is called "chapati mystery" and has an interesting entry about books....

NeeliAankhen · Apr 25th, 2007, 07:27

Great article, thanks. I saw Dalrymple recently in New York - if his book tour takes him near where you are, I highly recommend his "reading" - he does a lot better than just reading, he shows slides and talks - he's a really alive and passionate presenter of his scholarship.

capt_mahajan · Apr 25th, 2007, 07:32

Interesting article.

I still think City of Djinns and In Xanadu are his best...

dzibead · Apr 25th, 2007, 08:05

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Originally Posted by capt_mahajan

Interesting article.

I still think City of Djinns and In Xanadu are his best...

I wish the BBC would release his City of Djinns program on DVD. I've heard it's really good and I'm dying to see it.

capt_mahajan · Apr 25th, 2007, 08:09

Dzibead, I saw that before I read the book. Excellent programme, and (I have said this before) haunting music too... Michael Brooks and Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan.

dzibead · Apr 25th, 2007, 08:17

Sometimes publishers put out fancy illustrated editions of books that sell really well. Jon Krakauer's Into This Air is a good example (and Dan Brown's The Da Vinci Code is a bad example

) If I can't get a DVD, I'd love to see a larger (or larger) format edition of The City of Djinns with good photos of all the buildings and archaeological sites he talks about, along with copies of some of the old prints and Mughal paintings he discusses ... what the havelis in Chandi Chowk looked like "before" and "after" ... and maps! Maybe I'll drop a line to the publisher ...

iwanttogoback · Apr 25th, 2007, 08:33

fantastic idea dzi, i'd love to see much better illustrations as well.

capt_mahajan · Apr 25th, 2007, 08:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by dzibead

Maybe I'll drop a line to the publisher ...

http://www.filmakers.com/indivs/CityDjinns.htm

295 USD????

I must be missing something.

dzibead · Apr 25th, 2007, 08:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by capt_mahajan

http://www.filmakers.com/indivs/CityDjinns.htm

295 USD????

I must be missing something.

Must be for commercial purchase or purchase by an "educational institution" (e.g., an American "public television" station)! Surely not for the home viewing market!

capt_mahajan · Apr 25th, 2007, 09:03

maybe they have a home viewing purchase option for 29.95

PeakXV · Apr 25th, 2007, 09:11

I've got the "Doubting Thomas" and "City of Djinns" programs that I taped when it ran on Discovery Channel - I'll knock a copy off for $100.00 (plus shipping

) for anybody that's interested.

iwanttogoback · Apr 25th, 2007, 09:14

is it not for sale through the bbc?

i've just checked out their website but can't seem to find a bbc shop. but then again they may not have one.

ok, so i found the bbc shop, but nothing for sale by william dalrymple, or to do with djinns.

jyotirmoy · Apr 25th, 2007, 10:32

A play based on the experiences of the author is being staged in Delhi.
My suggestion is get a copy of this book and a ticket to Delhi. Enter Feroze Shah Kotla, a deserted fort in ruins with a great lawn inside. Sprawl and read a chapter. Pull yourself up and walk to see these places described in the book. Find yourself on the ramparts of Red Fort at the spot where the last Mughal had stood & watched the dust raised by the horsemen on the other side of the Yamuna.

kidsan · Apr 25th, 2007, 15:13

i love city of djinns but didnt know that there was a tv programme of it...that i would love to see.

I'm not sure if it will affect this or not, but there was an article in the news recently about how the bbc want to put a large amount of their archives online for all to see. What a resource that will make!!

bijapuri · Apr 25th, 2007, 15:20

I've read "Last Mughal" and loved it. Much better than "White Mughal" which I didn;t finish. LM is a more scolarly work than City of Djinns, which, although charming to read is definitely NOT a scolarly work. LM breaks new ground in that the author utilized mountains of heretofore untapped documents to reconstruct the events of 1857 as seen by the citizens of Delhi. No serious understanding of 1857 can now be reached without his work.

Dalrymple's comparisons of the events leading u to 1857 and the modern day events in Iraq are startling, but IMHO compelling.

LM is also a great telling of a great story, so don't be put off by it's value as a work of history!

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PeakXV Naan.tering Nabob Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Abode of Glooscap Posts: 4,196	I've got the "Doubting Thomas" and "City of Djinns" programs that I taped when it ran on Discovery Channel - I'll knock a copy off for $100.00 (plus shipping ) for anybody that's interested. __________________ We shall not cease from exploration and at the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started ...and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot Don't go to India ~ Pre-trip Warnings & Misconceptions?

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bijapuri laid traps for troubadours Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Priustan Posts: 2,598	I've read "Last Mughal" and loved it. Much better than "White Mughal" which I didn;t finish. LM is a more scolarly work than City of Djinns, which, although charming to read is definitely NOT a scolarly work. LM breaks new ground in that the author utilized mountains of heretofore untapped documents to reconstruct the events of 1857 as seen by the citizens of Delhi. No serious understanding of 1857 can now be reached without his work. Dalrymple's comparisons of the events leading u to 1857 and the modern day events in Iraq are startling, but IMHO compelling. LM is also a great telling of a great story, so don't be put off by it's value as a work of history! __________________ Focusing your life solely on making a buck shows a certain poverty of ambition. It asks too little of yourself. Because it's only when you hitch your wagon to something larger than yourself that you realize your true potential. Barack Obama lookit me!!!: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bijapuri/ Utube fuzzy logic: http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=bijapuri&p =r

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Apr 25th, 2007, 07:27	#2
NeeliAankhen Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New York, NY USA Posts: 268	Great article, thanks. I saw Dalrymple recently in New York - if his book tour takes him near where you are, I highly recommend his "reading" - he does a lot better than just reading, he shows slides and talks - he's a really alive and passionate presenter of his scholarship.

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capt_mahajan (in charge of navel affairs) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 10,105	Interesting article. I still think City of Djinns and In Xanadu are his best...

Apr 25th, 2007, 08:09	#5
capt_mahajan (in charge of navel affairs) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 10,105	Dzibead, I saw that before I read the book. Excellent programme, and (I have said this before) haunting music too... Michael Brooks and Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan.

Apr 25th, 2007, 08:17	#6
dzibead Maha Guru Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,081	Sometimes publishers put out fancy illustrated editions of books that sell really well. Jon Krakauer's Into This Air is a good example (and Dan Brown's The Da Vinci Code is a bad example ) If I can't get a DVD, I'd love to see a larger (or larger) format edition of The City of Djinns with good photos of all the buildings and archaeological sites he talks about, along with copies of some of the old prints and Mughal paintings he discusses ... what the havelis in Chandi Chowk looked like "before" and "after" ... and *maps*! Maybe I'll drop a line to the publisher ...

Apr 25th, 2007, 08:33	#7
iwanttogoback is sorry Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: perth Posts: 1,571	fantastic idea dzi, i'd love to see much better illustrations as well.

Apr 25th, 2007, 09:03	#10
capt_mahajan (in charge of navel affairs) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 10,105	maybe they have a home viewing purchase option for 29.95

Apr 25th, 2007, 09:14	#12
iwanttogoback is sorry Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: perth Posts: 1,571	is it not for sale through the bbc? i've just checked out their website but can't seem to find a bbc shop. but then again they may not have one. ok, so i found the bbc shop, but nothing for sale by william dalrymple, or to do with djinns.

Apr 25th, 2007, 10:32	#13
jyotirmoy Maha Guru Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 4,621	A play based on the experiences of the author is being staged in Delhi. My suggestion is get a copy of this book and a ticket to Delhi. Enter Feroze Shah Kotla, a deserted fort in ruins with a great lawn inside. Sprawl and read a chapter. Pull yourself up and walk to see these places described in the book. Find yourself on the ramparts of Red Fort at the spot where the last Mughal had stood & watched the dust raised by the horsemen on the other side of the Yamuna.

Apr 25th, 2007, 15:13	#14
kidsan Maha Guru Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: heading for Mauritania... Posts: 689	i love city of djinns but didnt know that there was a tv programme of it...that i would love to see. I'm not sure if it will affect this or not, but there was an article in the news recently about how the bbc want to put a large amount of their archives online for all to see. What a resource that will make!!

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