Trip Report of Eastern Arunachal: Dec-10 / Jan-11

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#31 Jan 13th, 2011, 00:00
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Thanks for sharing the link but when I was going through the news in more detail manner, it seems there is no change of situation for Indian citizens who are governed by ILP in any of these 3 states (Nagaland, Mizoram and Arunachal, surprisingly I found Manipur doesn't have ILP regime) Out of PAP, RAP and ILP Regime only PAP is temporarily removed for 1 year from Mizoram, Manipur and Nagaland where as would be continued with Arunachal, RAP would still be applicable for all 4 NE States and ILP would be applicable for the three (barring Manipur) states as it was earlier.

Reported with best clarity in Assam Tribune that wrote:


Indians and foreigners who want to visit states in the North-East need special permission from the Government under three restrictive regimes — inner-line permit (ILP) for Indians, and Protected Area Permit (PAP) and Restricted Area Permit (RAP) for foreigners.
Arunachal Pradesh, Manipur, Nagaland and Mizoram were put under PAP in 1958 to prevent religious conversions and control of insurgency. A violation of the rules led to imprisonment of up to five years.
Sources said that in 60 years, insurgency has been contained in the North-East and the Centre does not expect it to rise further. So it was decided to lift PAP for one year on experimental on a basis, sources said.
“If it is successful, we will extend it further,” the official added. However, the restrictions under ILP and RAP continues, as Indians would still need ILPs to enter Arunachal Pradesh, Nagaland and Mizoram and RAPs are necessary to visit certain areas such as near military bases and insurgency-affected area.

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Also read an editorial in one of the NE online news paper that clearly says the justification of ILP as below:

There have also been very false arguments that if the people want the PAP, which prevents foreigners entering some north eastern states, to be removed, another Act, Inner Line Permit, ILP must go too. The ILP incidentally is not applicable in Manipur, and is today in effect only in Nagaland, Mizoram and Arunachal Pradesh. There are however demands in some quarters that Manipur should be covered by the provisions of the ILP too. The argument that it should be both Acts repealed together, or none at all, is spurious precisely because the two Acts address two different concerns. The PAP is more akin to a grossly redundant travel permit for tourists. It is like a second visa for foreign visitors who come to India and want to travel to the Northeast. They also have to pay as much as they have had to pay to get an Indian visa by which they entered the country. The ILP on the other hand is designed to prevent permanent settlement of non locals within the ILP area. It is also a travel permit in a limited way, but it is easy and inexpensive to acquire.

The complete editorial is here
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Thanks kshil & HVK for detailed clarifcations on permits for NE areas.

Apart from the Miao-Vijaynangar trek, I have hopes to see some of the NE states (other than Assam & Arunachal). Security issues & lack of travel/tourist data was a concern and so it was getting delayed; but now, per TOI link, the relaxation of permits for Manipur, Mizoram, Nagaland to promote tourism in those areas, indicates an easing of situation. So will now search for travel/stay data for those areas. If anybody has links for these NE states do share.

@HVK: If are you planning any drives through those NE states, do let me know.

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There appears to be now total confusion on this permit business!
I notice that both the Nagaland & Manipur Govt web-sites are silent on permit requirements (earlier, they had info on this), but Mizoram continues to state that ILPs are required for Indian tourists, as was the case before.

KS, maybe you should talk to Bedanta and find out what is the prevailing ground situation.

Yes, I want to drive once again to the NE this year, to cover Mechuka, Tuting, Medo, Roing, Tezu regions, which we could not do last time. Also want to visit South Mizoram and Tura cave region in Meghalaya, both of which I have missed in my previous trips. Let us see how to work this one.
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Impressive report and lovely pictures. This must rank as a reference for anyone intending to visit the region.
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kshil this is indeed a beautifully written and well detailed trip report ! Enjoyed reading every word of it ! Cheers
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@snonymous and @amarshah, Thanks for your appreciation on post and the snaps. I believe Arunachal should promote the whole state instead of just Tawang which is already impacted by mass tourism.

@HVK, the plan of driving through Mechuka, Tuting and some other part of North East seems to be so attractive, please let me know if you still have a vacant seat in this trip . One correction, Medo is a place where you have driven atleast twice once while going and other while coming back from Kibithu. The place is 20 odd km from Wakro towards Namsai on the Tinsukia - Rupai - Namsai - Wakro route.

@ks_bluechip, just came across an album in facebook having some aerial shots of Vijaynagar, seems to be a nice valley in the middle of mountain, you would surely have a good time in this great trek. Have a look here.
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kshil, your trip report and photographs are fabulous - as usual. Got a different flavor of Arunachal - as all people I know stick to the standard tourist route in Arunachal. You have an amazing ability to dig out information about remote locations - that's really great.
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Kausiks, thanks for your appreciation in this regard. You are absolutely correct, most people stick to Bhalukpong-Bomdila-Tawang and think that's what Arunachal is all about. Unfortunately when I visted Kolkata Office of Arunchal Govt and requested for ILP of Hayuliang/Walong or Namdapha, they discouraged and refused me with some stupid reasons and constantly persuading me to go to Tawang, which was also in my initial plan though. But what looks odd to me was in the Govt office, inside the room where the Govt official sits, you would find number of brochures and advertisement of the private tour operators, notices put up by them with their own contact numbers (where as you won't find a single brochure published by Arunachal Govt, they would inevitably say it's finished and would be able to give after reprint) and even tour operators and travel agents usually sit there for hours without any valid reason and would start giving you unsolicited advice and finally even go to the extent of asking for your cell number. All these happen in front of the officials and you would clearly feel the tacit understanding between the officials and the agents present there. I was reading your apprehension on Kaziranga in other thread but Tawang also is not far away from being a victim of mass tourism and loosing its original charm if the present situation continues. I am sure you would find Namdapha much more attractive than Kaziranga and believe me or not the forest officials and staffs there even called up at my home through their only mode of communication, a WLL phone to talk to my daughter after we came back. There you would feel the warmth of heart that's actually missing in the places where things got extremely commercialized. Even Manas would be a far better choice than Kaziranga in that regard. That's the reason why many of us here would be ready to face the infrastructure problems but still would be happy with broken bridges and no hotel as long as the place could retain its charm.

I think a trip is long due for you as probably your last trip was Kinnaur in May-10 . Looking for some update at your end.
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Originally Posted by kshil View Post Unfortunately when I visted Kolkata Office of Arunchal Govt and requested for ILP of Hayuliang/Walong or Namdapha, they discouraged and refused me with some stupid reasons and constantly persuading me to go to Tawang, which was also in my initial plan though. But what looks odd to me was in the Govt office, inside the room where the Govt official sits, you would find number of brochures and advertisement of the private tour operators, notices put up by them with their own contact numbers (where as you won't find a single brochure published by Arunachal Govt, they would inevitably say it's finished and would be able to give after reprint) and even tour operators and travel agents usually sit there for hours without any valid reason and would start giving you unsolicited advice and finally even go to the extent of asking for your cell number.
Its the same in many government tourism offices. They deny accommodation in government hotels and suggest to book in those run by other operators.

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Originally Posted by kshil View Post I am sure you would find Namdapha much more attractive than Kaziranga and believe me or not the forest officials and staffs there even called up at my home through their only mode of communication, a WLL phone to talk to my daughter after we came back. There you would feel the warmth of heart that's actually missing in the places where things got extremely commercialized.
That's really great!! I will keep Namdapha in mind when I plan. Once commercialization sets in, the lure of easy money makes most people forget that they have certain obligations to fulfill.

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Originally Posted by kshil View Post I think a trip is long due for you as probably your last trip was Kinnaur in May-10 . Looking for some update at your end.
Yes, kshil - a trip is due from my end after my last Kinnaur trip. I did a small trip to Varanasi in between to experience Dev Deepabali. It was a wonderful trip and Varanasi looked different for those three hours in the evening of Dev Deepabali. I could not go on a trip in December as my daughter was away for her first trip with Bharat Scouts & Guides (and without parents) to Panchmari for a week. So planning for March after her exams.
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Originally Posted by kausiks View Post Yes, kshil - a trip is due from my end after my last Kinnaur trip. I did a small trip to Varanasi in between to experience Dev Deepabali. It was a wonderful trip and Varanasi looked different for those three hours in the evening of Dev Deepabali. I could not go on a trip in December as my daughter was away for her first trip with Bharat Scouts & Guides (and without parents) to Panchmari for a week. So planning for March after her exams.
Any snap kaushiks to share on Dev Deepabali in Varanasi? Sounds quite amazing indeed. Great to know you are planning sometimes in March and in case you go to Pench, expect to get my 2 cents as I have a plan for Kanha/Bandhavgarh/Pench in Feb end and March begin
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Excellent trip report, thoroughly enjoyed reading it, great photos too.
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Originally Posted by kshil View Post Any snap kaushiks to share on Dev Deepabali in Varanasi? Sounds quite amazing indeed. Great to know you are planning sometimes in March and in case you go to Pench, expect to get my 2 cents as I have a plan for Kanha/Bandhavgarh/Pench in Feb end and March begin
Your 2 cents are actually worth much more...have to apply a magnification factor to calculate its actual value. Will definitely look forward to it. I did Kanha/Bhandavgarh/Bhedaghat/Jabalpur in Mar 2009. Feb-Mar is a nice time to go.
Will publish the links to the Varanasi photos - they are still lying in my laptop.
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@tripsammy, thanks for your appreciation on the report and snaps, I liked the tiger you shot (with camera) at Corbett recently, excelllent shot

@kausiks, my proposed trip is yours one followed in March 2009 + Amarkantak + Panchmari + Pench. I would surely update you with the latest before you leave and ofcourse with some useful contacts

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I have only just noticed the links to the photo albums on Orkut! Wonderful photos, thank you so much for posting them here. I especially like the pics of the tribal Lizu.
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Theyyam thanks for looking into the whole set and your appreciation. As ks_bluechip correctly mentioned these are selective snaps among the whole set, looking for some time when I could sort out few more interesting snaps and upload them, will update you once I would be able to do that.
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