Comments for Roopkund Trek article

Almoraboy · Jul 19th, 2008, 15:33

yup. next time you guys go there, try neembu molee kaa raitaa. it is my all time favourite

ks_bluechip · Jul 19th, 2008, 17:10

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Originally Posted by Sadanand Kamath

Thanks AB.

Horses, pony/mules can be arranged from Wan. In fact, our guide Debu arranged a mule from Wan for carrying loads to Bedni. Of course, in winter, it may be better to pre-arrange the horses. I think, GMVN caretaker can do so.

KS is already on the job to mark the important places on google earth including GMVN Wan.

By the way, we remembered you in Wan about your liking for typical local food. Debu tried his best to get the local saag (which you metioned in another thread) for us but was not available in Wan. I had tested that saag during my trek to Chhota Kailash in '93 and I liked it.

Sadanand

Almorabhoy & SK: Thats right ...I have tentatively place-marked all the places we camped and some other important trail-points on Google Earth. I was waiting to show those to SK on my PC and get his confirmation before putting out that KMZ file on my Blog.

Incidentally, Wan-GMVN is one location I could not mark with 100% certainity, as there are many houses in that wide-spread WAN-area and unable to identify the exact GMVN-shape, with the Temple & FRH behind it, on GE (even though the WAN area & the entire Roopkund trail is in Hi-Res Image; except Trishul Peak-1).

BTW: Almorabhoy: I did find all your old place-marks (very well-placed in fact

) on GE all the way to Roopkund!

That helped me a lot to see the entire trek-trail even before we landed up there.

I will send you my KMZ file next week, after I return to Mumbai

Almoraboy · Jul 19th, 2008, 18:35

ok, i am waiting for your kmz file now.

shahronakm · Jul 19th, 2008, 20:15

SK, Your writing is excellent & am loving every part of it. One thing is for sure next time if someone is stranded in tent because of bad weather during roopkund trek he/she will be reading your roopkund posts.

Ronak.

Sadanand Kamath · Jul 20th, 2008, 20:36

Editor's Note:

This post has been promoted to the Article section. You can read it in it's entirety here:

Roopkund Trek Report by Sadanand Kamath

ronsaik · Jul 20th, 2008, 20:48

Have been able to relive my own trip through your vividly detailed account. Wonderfully written.

nyraghu · Jul 20th, 2008, 21:13

Congratulations, Sadanand and KSB! Belated, no doubt --- I haven't checked in at IM for quite a while --- but no less sincere for that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sadanand Kamath

The porters/guides and other local shepherds also came out in the open to rejoice the occasion. Even horses seem to enjoy the sunny weather by galloping and running wildly from one end to the other end of the bugyal. In himalaya, fine weather brings enthusiasm, optimism and exuberance in everybody but incessant rains and snow conditions brings gloom, pessimism and inertia in the people.

That's indeed a vivid description of the feeling of release brought about by a sudden respite from difficult weather. Sadanand, I am truly enjoying your account. I have started looking at the wonderful photographs too. Thank you both for sharing your experiences.

Raghu.

sagarneel · Jul 20th, 2008, 21:52

I must compliment you for this wonderful write up, and also for the fact that you had the fortune of exploring the depths of the Himalayas. Wonderful sugestions and photos with very useful informations.
I would like to know whether it is worth trekking only to Ali and Bedini bugiyals(leaving Roopkund)from Gowaldam and back, and whether the guide you mentioned would guide me in thi trip.
Thanks ,
Sagarneel.

Sadanand Kamath · Jul 20th, 2008, 22:34

Thanks ronsaik, raghu and sagarneel for compliments.

Sadanand

ks_bluechip · Jul 20th, 2008, 22:42

SK: Just got back home from Banaglore by Udyan-Exp. and read your Part-5 .... as usual, well written with factual details!

I just want to add a bit more about that Wan-lad (since I met him seperately a little ahead on the trail) who was on a Kidaa-Ghass hunting trip (Diwan Singh, if I remember his name right) impressed me a lot with his knowledge. I have never come across a person in a (remote) village, speak such perfect and chaste Hindi, with beautiful (and respectful) diction! I remember complimenting him for it and asking him how come he spoke so well?

He gave me a wry smile and explained about his stay and study in Chandigarh. And having to return back to his Wan village to look after his parents. He explained in a non-complaining and matter of fact manner his unfortunate suituation of "being the only son to his parents ... and his responsibility to look after them in their old age" and that "they would have been unhappy in (and adjusting to a big town like) Chandigarh" .... and so it was best for him to return to Wan ... though he was finding this rural life and Kidaa-ghaas hunting etc. a bit boring for himself!

I tell you, I was impressed by this boy!

.

Sadanand Kamath · Jul 20th, 2008, 22:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by sagarneel

I would like to know whether it is worth trekking only to Ali and Bedini bugiyals(leaving Roopkund)from Gowaldam and back, and whether the guide you mentioned would guide me in thi trip.
Thanks ,
Sagarneel.

My personal view is that in Roopkund trek route, the most beautiful part of the trek is Wan-Bedni Bugyal-Ali Bugyal-Pathar Nachauni. As per arjunm's account even Didana-Ali Bugyal route is equally good.

If you want adventure, you can continue the Pathar Nachauni-Kalu Vinayak-Baguabasa-Roopkund-Juiari Galli trek.

Debu will definitely be happy to guide you in this trek provided you tell him well in advance. I will give his details once he gets his mobile number.

Sadanand

Sadanand Kamath · Jul 20th, 2008, 22:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by ks_bluechip

SK: Just got back home from Banaglore by Udyan-Exp. and read your Part-5 .... as usual, well written with factual details!

I just want to add a bit more about that Wan-lad (since I met him seperately a little ahead on the trail) who was on a Kidaa-Ghass hunting trip (Diwan Singh, if I remember his name right) impressed me a lot with his knowledge. I have never come across a person in a (remote) village, speak such perfect and chaste Hindi, with beautiful (and respectful) diction! I remember complimenting him for it and asking him how come he spoke so well?

He gave me a wry smile and explained about his stay and study in Chandigarh. And having to return back to his Wan village to look after his parents. He explained in a non-complaining and matter of fact manner his unfortunate suituation of "being the only son to his parents ... and his responsibility to look after them in their old age" and that "they would have been unhappy in (and adjusting to a big town like) Chandigarh" .... and so it was best for him to return to Wan ... though he was finding this rural life and Kidaa-ghaas hunting etc. a bit boring for himself!

I tell you, I was impressed by this boy!

.

Thanks for correcting me. I was handicapped by your absence from Mumbai and I was not able to get you on your mobile.
Yes, I remember now, he said he was the only son to his parents. But he never indicated to me that he was bored by rural life.
With your permission, I will amend the Report suitably.

Sadanand

ks_bluechip · Jul 20th, 2008, 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sadanand Kamath

My personal view is that in Roopkund trek route, the most beautiful part of the trek is Wan-Bedni Bugyal-Ali Bugyal-Pathar Nachauni. As per arjunm's account even Didana-Ali Bugyal route is equally good.

If you want adventure, you can continue the Pathar Nachauni-Kalu Vinayak-Baguabasa-Roopkund-Juiari Galli trek.

Debu will definitely be happy to guide you in this trek provided you tell him well in advance. I will give his details once he gets his mobile number.

Sadanand

Debu's BSNL Mobile number is: +91 94100-49694

Since his village (Khati on Pindari Route) does'nt have a cell-tower as yet, he may not answer, when at home. You can also contact him via Raju (Dahkuri Chai-walla) cell: +91 9410416855

kmalik · Jul 21st, 2008, 00:06

KS and SK -

Wonderful trip and trip report. Enjoying it vicariously reading your account. My wife was so impressed with the pictures you and earlier trekkers included, she has now prioritized on our to-do list

As I read your troubles with the glacier crossings and deep soft snow, I am wondering if it was loosely packed dry snow or slushy mixture of water and snow. If it were the former, either having snowshoes or creating make shift ones might have helped a great deal.

ks_bluechip · Jul 21st, 2008, 00:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sadanand Kamath

Thanks for correcting me. I was handicapped by your absence from Mumbai and I was not able to get you on your mobile.
Yes, I remember now, he said he was the only son to his parents. But he never indicated to me that he was bored by rural life.
With your permission, I will amend the Report suitably.

Sadanand

I am not sure if he actually said he was "bored" with the rural life .... but he definitely sounded kind of "resigned" to his fate of a Wan-life!

Jul 19th, 2008, 15:33	#46
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shahronakm Maha Guru Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 1,851	SK, Your writing is excellent & am loving every part of it. One thing is for sure next time if someone is stranded in tent because of bad weather during roopkund trek he/she will be reading your roopkund posts. Ronak. __________________ My Picture Gallery

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sagarneel In love with mountains Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kolkatan living in New Delhi Posts: 324	Excellent write up I must compliment you for this wonderful write up, and also for the fact that you had the fortune of exploring the depths of the Himalayas. Wonderful sugestions and photos with very useful informations. I would like to know whether it is worth trekking only to Ali and Bedini bugiyals(leaving Roopkund)from Gowaldam and back, and whether the guide you mentioned would guide me in thi trip. Thanks , Sagarneel.

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Jul 19th, 2008, 18:35	#48
Almoraboy Trekker Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London.....Himalayas in between Posts: 1,039	ok, i am waiting for your kmz file now.

Jul 20th, 2008, 20:48	#51
ronsaik Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 391	Have been able to relive my own trip through your vividly detailed account. Wonderfully written.

Jul 20th, 2008, 22:34	#54
Sadanand Kamath Maha Guru Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 1,044	Thanks ronsaik, raghu and sagarneel for compliments. Sadanand

Jul 20th, 2008, 22:42	#55
ks_bluechip Maha Guru Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 1,324	SK: Just got back home from Banaglore by Udyan-Exp. and read your Part-5 .... as usual, well written with factual details! I just want to add a bit more about that Wan-lad (since I met him seperately a little ahead on the trail) who was on a Kidaa-Ghass hunting trip (Diwan Singh, if I remember his name right) impressed me a lot with his knowledge. I have never come across a person in a (remote) village, speak such perfect and chaste Hindi, with beautiful (and respectful) diction! I remember complimenting him for it and asking him how come he spoke so well? He gave me a wry smile and explained about his stay and study in Chandigarh. And having to return back to his Wan village to look after his parents. He explained in a non-complaining and matter of fact manner his unfortunate suituation of "being the only son to his parents ... and his responsibility to look after them in their old age" and that "they would have been unhappy in (and adjusting to a big town like) Chandigarh" .... and so it was best for him to return to Wan ... though he was finding this rural life and Kidaa-ghaas hunting etc. a bit boring for himself! I tell you, I was impressed by this boy! .

Jul 21st, 2008, 00:06	#59
kmalik Maha Guru Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 672	KS and SK - Wonderful trip and trip report. Enjoying it vicariously reading your account. My wife was so impressed with the pictures you and earlier trekkers included, she has now prioritized on our to-do list As I read your troubles with the glacier crossings and deep soft snow, I am wondering if it was loosely packed dry snow or slushy mixture of water and snow. If it were the former, either having snowshoes or creating make shift ones might have helped a great deal.

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