Agra trip

jaws · Mar 16th, 2009, 23:50

We visited agra on 6 mar friday .Taj closed on fri so we went on cycle tour near Taj and they took us on near govt building for great view at 18.30 pm.
for me agra was bit disappointed. Not been look after properly and even in Taj not been looked after for repairs and cleaning.
Found PRAkash hotel near taj .stayed there .Two rooms got taj view and good Taj view from roof top so that was one plus point . veg food in gmb was very good.
Other then Taj was more harrassed more everywhere in agra.
One thing most annoying was train stoped outside station for 5 min and that bit was very bad smelly and people sitting doing toilet facing trains not very good for agras image.

delhiwala · Mar 17th, 2009, 00:05

Hmmmmm..........

Watching Slumdog Millionaire (Oscar Award winning movive by Danny Boyle) will help you understand all these things............

jaws · Mar 17th, 2009, 00:28

Dehiwala
I can understand people doing toilet near station but can not understand dirty water and old fort looking mostly ruins destoryed in floods behind taj .We had amazing guide from incredible india and he told me some story not worth writing here.
They charge 750 from us so i hope they do look after in good way for long time. what guide told me was not nice .even in Taj people writing on wall that day no one there to stop .
If its good tourist place they have to find ways to do something .
Delhiwala we stayed in paharganj was better then this .

delhiwala · Mar 17th, 2009, 02:09

Living standards in India have improved in India, however still some people live in so abject poverty that they don't have access to Toilets...... But nature's call can't wait......

And yes, my heart weeps too when I see people senselessly defacing our monuments. Infact the Government of India is now a days running an educational campaign against these things.

And I don't know what your guide told you about the dirty water. If you can't post here, pl. PM me (If you have some spare time). I would to know what they are telling westerners.

OceanTragic · Mar 17th, 2009, 05:01

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Originally Posted by jaws

Other then Taj was more harrassed more everywhere in agra.

Just interested, are you saying you weren't harrassed very much around the Taj?

Also, your guide, how did you get him? Got an email address?

jaws · Mar 17th, 2009, 15:59

I was harressed alot but i just say give me if its free and they walk away.no email address for guide.
delhiwala
i am not against anything but please google japan help for yamuna river by japan and you will understand what i mean. i am not with or again any one this link which i am not connected might help you. i do not know whats true but what they need is some one to be incharge to overlook all this.please note this is not me its indians there told me.
http://www.wecare-ngo.org/public_htm...les-yamuna.htm
If there is security in Taj why they do not stop people writing on wall or even challenge them. Just throw them out from Taj or do something which will stop this things.Or big fine notice might ditter them for cleaning charge who get caught on cctv? I think they will make money out of charges and stop some others.

BeHappy · May 4th, 2009, 07:44

Jaws: you are right about dirty water and lack of basic facilities. I am an Indian in US for over 20 years now. Why doesn't India employ the idle and available manpower in building infra is beyond me - that would generate employment as well as infra which in turn will lead to more tourism, more economic activity and so on. I was in Shanghai twice last year and the difference between China and India was startling. No flaming please - just a suggestion.

delhiwala · May 4th, 2009, 12:27

We have become a nation of selfish people. Politicos want their own upliftment, PWD engineers want to build their villas rather than roads......General public has apathy towards all....

Votes are still polled on the basis of Castes......

Only a miracle can save India......

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Originally Posted by BeHappy

Jaws: you are right about dirty water and lack of basic facilities. I am an Indian in US for over 20 years now. Why doesn't India employ the idle and available manpower in building infra is beyond me - that would generate employment as well as infra which in turn will lead to more tourism, more economic activity and so on. I was in Shanghai twice last year and the difference between China and India was startling. No flaming please - just a suggestion.

jaws · May 4th, 2009, 17:03

[quote=delhiwala;717642]We have become a nation of selfish people. Politicos want their own upliftment, PWD engineers want to build their villas rather than roads.....

I agree with you Delhiwala but when you got such nice building and money they need some strong public power or big fame to keep it going. I really have no idea who will use money properly given by japan to clean agra. or big Sorry if already been cleaned.
I think govt should do something to tackle these.

delhiwala · May 4th, 2009, 17:19

Japan gave some money to clean Agra !!! Agra cleared or not Money must have been cleared by now.........

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Originally Posted by jaws

I really have no idea who will use money properly given by japan to clean agra. or big Sorry if already been cleaned.I think govt should do something to tackle these.

jaws · May 4th, 2009, 17:32

I like that .Rest assured when its money they know how to clean and where???
Point is they should take basis steps . I am not expert. but there is lot in india who can guide them with cheap way to save some pride.Eat 100 but do 50 rupees work will help.

delhiwala · May 4th, 2009, 17:46

If I had my way ! I would have uprooted Taj from Agra and reestablished it at some nicer place...like Chandigarh

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaws

I like that .Rest assured when its money they know how to clean and where???
Point is they should take basis steps . I am not expert. but there is lot in india who can guide them with cheap way to save some pride.Eat 100 but do 50 rupees work will help.

Mar 16th, 2009, 23:50	#1
jaws Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: LONDON Posts: 297	Agra trip We visited agra on 6 mar friday .Taj closed on fri so we went on cycle tour near Taj and they took us on near govt building for great view at 18.30 pm. for me agra was bit disappointed. Not been look after properly and even in Taj not been looked after for repairs and cleaning. Found PRAkash hotel near taj .stayed there .Two rooms got taj view and good Taj view from roof top so that was one plus point . veg food in gmb was very good. Other then Taj was more harrassed more everywhere in agra. One thing most annoying was train stoped outside station for 5 min and that bit was very bad smelly and people sitting doing toilet facing trains not very good for agras image.

Mar 17th, 2009, 00:05	#2
delhiwala IM what IM Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indeyah ! Posts: 4,817	Hmmmmm.......... Watching Slumdog Millionaire (Oscar Award winning movive by Danny Boyle) will help you understand all these things............ __________________ Travel only with thy equals or thy betters; if there are none, travel alone. - The Dhammapada

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Mar 17th, 2009, 00:28	#3
jaws Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: LONDON Posts: 297	Dehiwala I can understand people doing toilet near station but can not understand dirty water and old fort looking mostly ruins destoryed in floods behind taj .We had amazing guide from incredible india and he told me some story not worth writing here. They charge 750 from us so i hope they do look after in good way for long time. what guide told me was not nice .even in Taj people writing on wall that day no one there to stop . If its good tourist place they have to find ways to do something . Delhiwala we stayed in paharganj was better then this .

Mar 17th, 2009, 02:09	#4
delhiwala IM what IM Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indeyah ! Posts: 4,817	Living standards in India have improved in India, however still some people live in so abject poverty that they don't have access to Toilets...... But nature's call can't wait...... And yes, my heart weeps too when I see people senselessly defacing our monuments. Infact the Government of India is now a days running an educational campaign against these things. And I don't know what your guide told you about the dirty water. If you can't post here, pl. PM me (If you have some spare time). I would to know what they are telling westerners.

Mar 17th, 2009, 15:59	#6
jaws Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: LONDON Posts: 297	I was harressed alot but i just say give me if its free and they walk away.no email address for guide. delhiwala i am not against anything but please google japan help for yamuna river by japan and you will understand what i mean. i am not with or again any one this link which i am not connected might help you. i do not know whats true but what they need is some one to be incharge to overlook all this.please note this is not me its indians there told me. http://www.wecare-ngo.org/public_htm...les-yamuna.htm If there is security in Taj why they do not stop people writing on wall or even challenge them. Just throw them out from Taj or do something which will stop this things.Or big fine notice might ditter them for cleaning charge who get caught on cctv? I think they will make money out of charges and stop some others.

May 4th, 2009, 07:44	#7
BeHappy Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New England Posts: 18	Jaws: you are right about dirty water and lack of basic facilities. I am an Indian in US for over 20 years now. Why doesn't India employ the idle and available manpower in building infra is beyond me - that would generate employment as well as infra which in turn will lead to more tourism, more economic activity and so on. I was in Shanghai twice last year and the difference between China and India was startling. No flaming please - just a suggestion.

May 4th, 2009, 17:03	#9
jaws Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: LONDON Posts: 297	[quote=delhiwala;717642]We have become a nation of selfish people. Politicos want their own upliftment, PWD engineers want to build their villas rather than roads..... I agree with you Delhiwala but when you got such nice building and money they need some strong public power or big fame to keep it going. I really have no idea who will use money properly given by japan to clean agra. or big Sorry if already been cleaned. I think govt should do something to tackle these.

May 4th, 2009, 17:32	#11
jaws Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: LONDON Posts: 297	I like that .Rest assured when its money they know how to clean and where??? Point is they should take basis steps . I am not expert. but there is lot in india who can guide them with cheap way to save some pride.Eat 100 but do 50 rupees work will help.